FINAL FANTASY XI Update (Dec. 20)

At the following time, we performed a FINAL FANTASY XI version update. *The client software will also be updated at this time. Once this maintenance is completed, the client update will start automatically after logging back into FINAL FANTASY XI. Please follow the instructions that appear on your screen. [Affected Period] Dec. 20 2005 from 9:00 to 11:00 (PST) [Affected Services] FINAL FANTASY XI [Update Details] The following issues have been addressed: - Fish Ranking is now available - Certain monsters disappearing then reappearing repeatedly - Incorrect naming of Yagudo in Dynamis - Valkurm - Monsters becoming invisible when affected by the beastmaster ability "Charm" just before they disappear to return to their usual radius of activity - The names of the summoned entities "Thunder Spirit" and "Water Spirit" being reversed - Incorrect coordinates being temporarily displayed when closing the map - The effects of certain equipment not being applied to Diabolos's "Blood Pact" abilities - MPK measures not being put into effect for certain monsters

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jeezzz
# Dec 24 2005 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
sounds like spelling B **** class just let out. what the hell is all this comotion. act mature people and who cares if its misspelled use ur imagination. i dont recall typing
http://ffxi.allakhzam.com/news/cockfight/details
indirect nerf on bst
# Dec 23 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
61 bst and a little discouraged. i know the update was not meant to hurt us but the fact is it really has.not only does the mob disappear when you leave it but it reappears at a different lvl . ie: you leave an even match it may come back a tough. now any bst past 35 will realize this is very devastating to exping and will be hard on traditional exp parties as well because we will not be recycling the same 2 pets but roaming and wasting mobs inefficiently. please SE help us bst out it is a difficult job and now even harder. i do appreciate trying to stop mpk but this is not the way.
Ungh...
# Dec 23 2005 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
God damed Grammar Gestapo, get lives will ya?

Go out and get laid or something -.-
lmao
# Dec 22 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
lmao ...grammar.
Two Problems I Saw After This Update
# Dec 21 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I saw two problems after this update:

1) In the Korrolaka Tunnel, a Spider started casting STONE. The message was in the same color as other spell casting start messages, plus I heard spell. I didn't see the spider casting, though.

2) When leaving Bastok Market, a guy was zoning with two Goblins on his tail. One of these Goblins disappeared after he zoned. The other one started walking around, but didn't disappear.

While the MPK improvements are wonderful, SE needs to consider something about the links. If I had been a lower level character I'm sure I'd be dead and with loss of XP.

IBHalliwell - Happy to have FFXI!
Aha..
# Dec 21 2005 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Incorrect coordinates being temporarily displayed when closing the map


I was wondering about that bug; I thought maybe the game was trying to tell me hidden NM monster pop locations....
RE: Aha..
# Dec 21 2005 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
Oh yeah, (9--1) FTW as a map position.

And things like (>-3) and such, too.

That was just absolutely insane... I was trying to figure out how they'd managed to ***** that up at all. :-)
Update Also Affects Links
# Dec 21 2005 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
Just wondering if anyone else ran into this. I was pulling Bark Tarantulas in DA and linked one. I pulled them back to my party to have the link slept, but when I reached camp, the link stopped and vanished and we took out the pulled monster. Hmm. It doesn't always work, but it was interesting.

Sensui - Asura Server - 71SAM/WAR

Edited, Wed Dec 21 13:59:05 2005
MPK Monster Changes:
# Dec 20 2005 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
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MPK measures not being put into effect for certain monsters


Just discovered what this means. Some of the non-NM Named Monsters received upgrades to Notorious Monsters, to prevent them from being griefed to prevent progress in some quests and missions. I pretty much confirmed this one with Warchief Vatgit, who became notorious literally overnight.
RE: MPK Monster Changes:
# Dec 21 2005 at 10:30 AM Rating: Default
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Haven'you guys seen the typo on playonline site? I'm not english but i do know it spells Final Fantasy offical website not "web sit"...w
Bsts didn't get it apparently
# Dec 20 2005 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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"An issue where beastmasters didn't get the clue and attempted to recharm their pets in feeble attempts to gain experience points has been addressed"
RE: Bsts didn't get it apparently
# Dec 22 2005 at 10:37 AM Rating: Default
I would love to be able to recharm, but I am guessing its just not in the cards, lol. I just end up charming the same mobs I fight. Crawler Vs. Crawler and such.

I am lvl 48Bst now!! lol... Good luck to all other BSTs out there.

Scholar... sorry dude, you don't sound like you know what you are talking about. You do seem like an angry lil kid or something.
RE: Bsts didn't get it apparently
# Dec 22 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Default
who is that scholar guy? i guess because he is a 42bst, he thinks he knows everything. i'm not even a bst, but i understand the mechanics and i am sorry its been messed up. i am tired of bst's complaining too, but it doesn't mean that there isn't a problem. hopefully it will be addressed and rectified.
RE: Bsts didn't get it apparently
# Dec 22 2005 at 10:29 AM Rating: Default
Man is this Ando guy a ****** or what? This is a guy who obviously likes to run his mouth about things he doesn't know much about.

Beastmasters have always recharmed beasts. Just because you don't understand doesn't mean you have to be all ignorant on a website. Your inept opinion is not only inconsiderate but it is uneducated.

Ando, I would hate to go to a place that would allow you to consider yourself a scholar. You sound more like a 6th grade drop out. You just seem like some pissy little kid trying to be tough on the internet. People like you make me laugh, but I'll just end up feeling sorry for you.
RE: Bsts didn't get it apparently
# Dec 23 2005 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Re to Anonymousx3

Okay everyone, today's word for the day is "Joke". Can we all say it? Try saying it slowly first. There you go, good job.
RE: Bsts didn't get it apparently
# Dec 23 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
Problem is the joke is old and wasn't all that funny the first time someone used it.

Edited, Fri Dec 23 08:09:08 2005
Grammer Police
# Dec 20 2005 at 4:05 PM Rating: Default
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SE,
The grammer for Diabolos's is still wrong.
It's Diabolos' not Diabolos's.

Diabolos's sounds wrong.

Edited, Tue Dec 20 16:06:54 2005
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 20 2005 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm surprised I am the first to comment on your mispelling of "grammer" (actually "grammar").
Oh and by the way, corruption is currently being investigated within your department.
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 20 2005 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
Holy crap! This is 3rd grade stuff ppl. Our education system is in shambles. You use 's if it's singular and s' if it's plural and thats all. It doesn't matter what letter it ends in.

"Smith's dog" if Smith is one guy's name

"The Smiths' dog" if Smith is a family's name and hence refering to several ppl

and maybe that Jesus/Isis thing idk i never heard of that
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 22 2005 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry but that is still wrong.

Smith is singlur, even if you're referring to a family.

A family is considered a group. And a group although it involves more than 1 person, is classified as a singlur.

So when you say a group owns something, you do not say: "That groups' dog"

Instead you should say: "That group's dog"

The same is with "Family, and Smith"

If you replace Smith with the word Family in your sentence, you will get the same as the example I used with group

"That familys' dog" is wrong.
"That family's dog" is correct.

English is a very confusing language.
RE: Grammer Police
# Mar 31 2006 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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A family is considered a group. And a group although it involves more than 1 person, is classified as a singlur.

So when you say a group owns something, you do not say: "That groups' dog"


Everything that is plural is a group o.O if what you said is true there would be no use for s' at all. What matters is if it's singular or plural. Some groups can be singular like when i said "family's name" in my 1st post -.-
"Family" is not the same as "Smiths" because family is singular and Smiths is plural.
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 20 2005 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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Sorry, you're wrong. 's should always be used on any name, no matter if it ends in "s" or not. The one and only exception to this is if the name is ancient, such as Isis or Jesus.

Correct:
Russ's dog.
Jesus' ****.

Incorrect:
Wes' Star Trek collection.
Isis's webcam.
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 20 2005 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
Actually where proper names end with 's' adding an ('s) can be used. such as "russ's dog was lost" The ('s) is added to show possession to Russ. Diabolos is a singular usage noun, so thus, ('s) may be used. If you're going to correct grammer, do it properly. And for god's sake, use the message board for something useful. "ooh I'm gonna comment on SE's improper grammar usage." What are you, a frickin english teacher?
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 20 2005 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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You're incorrect. Your example should read, "Russ' dog was lost."
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 20 2005 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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Nope, sorry. From Elements of Style (which is the book on grammar), you'd need to use "Russ's dog" to be correct.

You can find a copy of the page here: http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html but I'll quote from it to save you from clicking. :)

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1. Form the possessive singular of nouns with 's.

Follow this rule whatever the final consonant.


(Bold added by me.)

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Exceptions are the possessives of ancient proper names in -es and -is, the possessive Jesus'...
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 21 2005 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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This is an international forum, and -- thank goodness -- the entire world is not yet ruled by the iron hand of Strunk.

Less directive authorities (not least, Webster, as well as such British gurus as Fowler, Gowers and Fraser) take the view that language is dynamic and seek to advise following observation rather than to prescribe. For these, the test of clarity acts as a touchstone to determine good practice. The British trio advise that, for the possessive of names ending in 's', either "'s" or a simple additional apostrophe are in routine use; since both forms are clear, either is acceptable.

Gowers notes that whilst logic would suggest consistently adding "'s", this form is almost universally used with shorter nouns (as in the previously cited example "Russ's"), but that some authors prefer to use the simple apostrophe with longer nouns (i.e. "Diabolos'"). In other words, it's entirely a matter of preference.

Do I hear one cheer for the grammer (sic) police?

Ceridwen

Edit: changed "words" to "names" to clarify scope of discussion.

Edited, Wed Dec 21 07:03:16 2005
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 21 2005 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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This is an international forum


Heh! You know, you're totally right. I hadn't thought about that. My bad. :)

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Gowers notes ... In other words, it's entirely a matter of preference.


*twitch* I dislike making it "a matter of preference". Or rather, if it's going to be personal choice, the person should know and understand the rule before they decide to break it -- the change from norm should be purposeful, not unknowing.

Just my opinion on it. :)
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 21 2005 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
But really, what is the norm? Is there ever a norm? What is normal?
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 21 2005 at 1:41 AM Rating: Default
WHO THE F*** CARES IF HE SPELT IT WRONG OR HIS GRAMMER IS WRONG, FOR GOD SAKE WE GOT WHAT HE MENT.
RE: Grammer Police
# Dec 21 2005 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
uhh, they were being asshats about it. if your going to correct someone on grammar, don't make a grammar mistake or you look like a fool. <Good Job!> CAThistleChaser, i bet they feel stupid now.
Wierdness.
# Dec 20 2005 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Confirm that the servers were down for only two hours.

I was heading a party into Valkurm (we broke up, since I have to get showered and go out sooner or later ... thought I'd post this first), and I was pulling Snippers near the cliffs overlooking Siren Sands. Halfway through the pull, the Snipper de-aggroed and ... vanished.

o_O

Is this normal?
Fix Sic toooooo!
# Dec 20 2005 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
Sic is still messed up

i was at 136% told my pet to sic and it didn't sic till it hit 200% whats up with that?
Re: Yep
# Dec 20 2005 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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yeah the mpk thing was messed up for a pt i was in, in the nest. something happenened, bunch of dingleberries got linked, i ran them all far away, i died, and of course they ran back and slaughtered my pt. which means that there was a bug with that. >.> seems as though that gm actually reported the occurance.


did any of your party members have any form of agression from them though? like a Cure spell on you perhaps? if that's the case, then they would still be on their hate list, and return to finish the job, so to speak

or perhaps someone else in the party attacked one by accident? just a thought
yep
# Dec 20 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
yeah the mpk thing was messed up for a pt i was in, in the nest. something happenened, bunch of dingleberries got linked, i ran them all far away, i died, and of course they ran back and slaughtered my pt. which means that there was a bug with that. >.> seems as though that gm actually reported the occurance.
No...no one is listening.
# Dec 20 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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No NaihlofKujata, sadly BST have not been heard. What this is saying is that there were a few situations (mobs) where the new systems was not working "properly". This update is correcting THAT, not returning BST to it's former fun state. </cry>

I'm wondering what new kinds of fun I can start having with the ~$30 a month I'm about to have freed up? >:)
for once
# Dec 20 2005 at 2:13 PM Rating: Default
Yeah, for once.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 20 2005 at 2:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If they are fixing problems and makeing the game better (although it should have been fixed/done in the first place) It's still worth the downtime to me to have a stable game. Go take a shower, do some luandry, talk to a real person, and come back after lunch and then you can get your FF fix.
6 hours?
# Dec 20 2005 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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What's 11 minus 9?
lmao
# Dec 20 2005 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes a 6 hour maint. is 7-8 hours of gameplay loss
Thanks SE for picking my one day off this week

Read the thing stupid its 2 hour m maint.
RE: lmao
# Dec 20 2005 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually this morning while i was playing FFXI, in one the messages from S-E talking about the maintenance, it said the maintenance was going to last 6 hours, and not 2 hours.
6 hours omg
# Dec 20 2005 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
Yes a 6 hour maint. is 7-8 hours of gameplay loss
Thanks SE for picking my one day off this week
RE: 6 hours omg
# Dec 20 2005 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
6hours, where? 9:00 to 11:00 is 2 hours last I checked..
Is Sqaue listening?
# Dec 20 2005 at 1:51 PM Rating: Default
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Hmmm. Sounds like the Bsts have been heard. Have to wait and see though.
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