While yes, this is a lovely little gesture on SE's behalf it won't solve the problem. I insist that the only way to fix the problem is to set a price range on ALL items. Yeah yeah, it'd have to be a large range... but still. IF they did it right they could even make it somewhat profitable to craft at low levels...

Well, if you check over at IGE, you will see a vast difference. Atm, 8 servers have no gil for sale, and 9 have only a partial list of gil for sale (although the rest still have a full palette available). However, you will also note that the restricted supply of saleable gil has allowed IGE to keep their margins up... The price for IGE gil has gone up over 100% in the last two weeks, so this should also have a strong effect on keeping folks from buying the extraordinary amounts of gil that were around and stockpiled for Christmas. I strongly suspect that SE's measures have had a great deal of success. Not only have they managed to remove a vast pool of gil, but they have restricted the supply coming back in to replenish the pool. Suspect prices will drop more than 60% (pure guesswork) on the items that shot up during Christmas season.

I just really read what this says. Please note this phrase:



It never says that they're really looking at banning all gilsellers, only the ones who make their money unfairly.

Just from this, I would have to agree with Nephew that people found a loophole and were maxing gil that way.

I do think that this is a step in the right direction. An average of 4.3 Billion per account banned could possibly help, but this shouldn't be construed as the end all solution.

As long as there are people who want to buy gil, there will be people who will sell it. I agree with mizango. It's a 2-way street. Maybe if enough of the buyers were punished, people would be forced to take notice and realize that gil buying is as much, if not more of, a crime than selling.

I say ban the buyers, they're ultimately the ones responsible for high prices. If the buyers aren't there, the sellers will go away on their own.

Imagine that? People buying and selling gil...
what is the world coming to?
why... this is the first time I've ever even heard of the concept >.>

phish...

RLT's will be back, they're the monsters of FFXI.
And just like the monsters in the movies...
...they always come back.

Using "Illicit" means to obtain their gil makes it sound like SE banned a few people who were scamming/botting but probably didn't ban the known gil farmers on each server. Basicly, if the gil farmer doesn't bot then they aren't in violation of the TOS since they probably send the gil to a separate account where it is sold from. If this is the case, this other account is the one engaging in RMT and not the character who actually farms the gil. Taking 30 billion gil out of the economy makes it sound like they banned these storage accounts which is probably why IGE has been out of stock for gil on most servers.

As for the question of whether this will stabilize the economy, it will eventually but it's not a quick fix. It will take time for the prices to come back down, but they've already started to.

I'm happy that SE has banned some accounts, and removing 300 billion gil from the economy is good, although divided by 30 servers that's 10 billion/server.

It sounded to me like SE discovered another gil creating cheat and banned those accounts. Other gilsellers who have found "legitimate" ways to make gil were probably not affected.

An example would be this naked female hume Miusde on Gilgamesh. She sits by the Upper Jeuno Stables AH almost 24/7 and synths Sole Sushi. If other cooks try to compete, she undercuts brutally until they drop out of the market, then the prices slowly rise back up.

Also, to Psymia and others I've heard mention "normal" prices... what does that mean? The prices like they are on Hydra? I've watched Darksteel Ore go from 6k to 60k since I've been playing but I'm sure it was even less at one time. What price in that continuum is "normal"? Just something to consider.

This is great news and gives you a little faith back....but will it do anything?

For example, monster signa, 1.4 mil on Odin. Whos going to say "aha the gilsellers are gone, better sell it for 300k now.".

Also, just 700? We have around 30 servers. 700 / 30 = 23. 23 gilsellers gone from our server is nice, but im sure there are more...

Kudos my ***, it took them god knows how long to do anything and when they finaly do the effort is half-hearted at best. >< As if GS's can't make new acounts. I'll be impressed when I finaly see IGE on the news in a class action law suit or somthing. That is, if SE dosen't realy own that company as I've heard thrown around. >/

Go SE Go get them bastards!!!

In my head there was something wrong... There was only 2 reasons why there was so much gil in the economy.

1. SE was creating gil and feeding it to RMT
2. Some ppl have found a loop hole in the game where they could make gil fast like with the rusty caps and padded caps back then.

There is so much gil comming out of the economy every day, and so little gil comming in the economy every day.

Lets take a look at the gil going out of the economy; chocobo, AH fees, Guilds supply, NPC buying (subligar for cashmere), and I must be forgetting a few.

Now lets look at the gil comming in the economy; killing beastman's, killing some NMs, fishing, selling to NPCs (this usually is in far smaller scale then buying from NPC), and I must be forgetting a few.

Before the subligar, I would say it was somewhat balanced, but now we should see more gil comming out then gil comming in. I'm very happy that they took the time to weed out the ppl that makes this game die. There will still be RMT camping NMs with bots and 3rd party which gives other ppl no choice of buying the item on AH. They fixed one problem, now they need to put a stop on those RMT ppl using bots.

Thankyou S-Enix for letting us know how many accounts and the value taken out of the game.

This kind of information is appreciated.

300 BILLION - (wow!)



Edited, Thu Feb 9 08:08:31 2006