I dont know about everyone else but I have been playing RPG's for 21 years. Yes I go back to the ORIGINAL dungeons and dragons days. remember those 3 simple books to play the game. look what that turned into hundreds of books and accessories. I like(not love) this game. It is to buggy at times. When EQ2 comes out, I will look at it and make the decision then. Not now. The game has to keep becoming fresh or they will lose their player(and revenue). I say wait until then and check out the game. If they do allow the toons to be moved, make it so it is like now. no money or equipment can be moved. Don't make it an open migration of toons. then everyone has to re-gain their equipment.

Only thing I have to say to Verant is this:

BETA TEST THIS THING TO HELL!!!!!!! MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO OR FEW BUGS TO IT. SoL WAS HORRID!!!!

Borigon Mindbegone
Dwarf Cleric
The Rathe

I think that they should not make a new eq but only keep up gradeing the original i mean who wants to leave EQ and have to start from lvl 1 again I will only get EQ2 if we can still use our old accounts on it as if it was just anothere expansion or somthing

60 Warrior, Seventh Hammer

Not meaning to rain on everyone's parade, but ket us think of something real quick. How many of you have favorite games that the company improved, and then the support for the original game went to zero. (Mechwarrior 2 is a GREAT example). OK, now let us look at Sony/Verant and their STERLING record of customer service (How many days have you tried to get on the phone with them?) And then lets put 2 and 2 together folks. If you really think that Sony/Verant is still going to support EQ after EQ2 comes out, I have a bridge to sell you. It has a good view of Brooklyn. COME ON PEOPLE!!!! Use your heads. Once Sony/Verant releases EQ2, all of a sudden, there are going to be even more server problems (as if there are not enough all ready) fewer guides/GMs, more delays, less patches, and more unfixed issues. The only way that I will even consider this an acceptable situation is if by having an EQ account, that means I have an EQ2 account as well. No paying for 2 accounts. If you have one then you can have both. They are still getting money for the game that way, and for once, not ******** the regular gamer. If anyone thinks that what I say won't come to pass, just look at the game with the legends server as it is now. Who is getting the better end of the deal. EQ2 will do the samen and over time they will kill EQ, and Sony/Verant will do it knowingly. Also, since I do not have the money to go out and buy the UBER machine that to will actually take to run this new game, (anyone else remember when we were still able to play EQ on WIN95), and those of us that really do have real lives (families, jobs, hobbies besides the computer) can't buy a new machine every time the game changes. I will look for the end of EQ as I have come to know and enjoy it.

Clearly some of the people who have been posting on this thread are truly imbeciles, or they merely haven't learned how to read, or to scroll down, or to click the little "next page" icon. I urge you to read through the posts before registering a concern that has already been addressed:

--It is likely that EverQuest will still receive expansions, thought it is doubtful that there will be any more graphics upgrades (see below). Take a look at the map that comes in the box for the Velious expansion. (I think there was a cloth map with Kunark as well.) There are a number of places in Antonica, Faydwer, and Odus that have yet to be fleshed out at all...Wayunder Lake, Rujarkian Hills, the Barren Plains, etc. There is still plenty of material for expansions in EverQuest

--The graphics can't be "fixed" without tearing the game apart and starting fresh anyway, so why not make a new game that has wider appeal? (I'm sure they expect to lose some of their original EverQuest customers through attrition anyway.)Certainly you don't think a software development company will release a sequel that is >>exactly<< like the original, do you?

--As far as new stories for quests and items, there will always be those, but Everquest for the most part is a game full of higher level characters (I'd estimate the average between 35-40 on most servers), so Verant has to make those new quests to suit those levels. Where does that leave the new characters, those of lower levels? Sure, the new beastlord class has some great low-level armor quests, and the new class-specific armor quests in Rivervale and Neriak are pretty good as well, but overall, EverQuest is no longer a game suited to new players. I find it humorous that the staunchest foes of the an EverQuest II are those who have level 60 (or level 50++) characters. What do you have to lose anyway? It's not like you can't continue to play the game with your guildies, and continue to horde camps from the rest of us who actually play for the fun of it instead of showing off our "uber" gear, right? You don't need, nor are you getting, any fresh blood in EverQuest, because it is stale, like a bag of Doritos left open for a week. Verant has had this epiphany, it's high time many of opened your eyes to it as well.

Ultimately, folks, here's what it comes down to:

If you wish to continue playing EverQuest, then, by all means, continue to do so. I suspect Verant will continue to provide it.

If you do not wish to purchase and play EverQuest II, then, by all means, don't. Those of us who look forward to its release and intend to play it do not want to listen to all the complaining in the /ooc channel about how the game sucks.

I, for one, not being an alarmist, intend to wait patiently, purchase the new game when it is released, play it for a while, decide whether or not I like it, and go from there. I suggest those of you Chicken Littles out there do the same...trust me, the sky has not yet begun to fall, and when it does, I don't think it will be because Verant released a new MMORPG. Crikey.

Also, for the love of Marr, (or the hate of Innoruuk, or the indifference of Karana, depending), stop cutting English class, and cut out EQ for a few months and use that money to invest in a textbook!! Some of the grammar here is atrocious.

/em picks up his soapbox, casts gate, and fades away.

Ok many people are excited about EQ2 but many more are NOT. Now think you are a big company who has recieved some complaints about the same old thing on every zone and item. But, really what are ya gonna do? It's only a game and everything is gets old after a while. BUT! think the thought that verant is making a new game of EQ and deeming the old one "obsolete". Now think why do they make one pay money yearly, monthly, etc. 'cause it costs alot of money to keep everything under control. Now if they have to take the old amount then add a new game which runs on a stronger engine and will prolly have less people then the less expensive one what will they do to "force" people to play their game. heres a thought; shut down the old one. They may or may not do it but the idea that they want to make this game so real all it does is scare people who dont want to get jumped by griffons and afraid of becoming newbs again. But also they are going to seperate the geeks from the people who have lives outside this game where the people with lives are afraid of the geeks who will take this game FAR too seriously (think star trek). But my final rant being a high lvl. If velious and kunark are gone where will the dragons go?

Dulayen Foolhardy 60th SK

Eq2 ps2 ......hmmmmmm put two and two together.

Eq2 is for ps2 just think about it for a little while it'll come to you.

The only part of EQ2 im not looking forward to is what was said about griffons. Cant see em till theyre right on top of you.

God help us.

i think this is justEQ for the PS2

Ack didn't want to post but accidentally hit enter =p


Edited, Sun Apr 28 15:01:32 2002

I played Everquest last year and had quite a few charactors on Torvonnilous (or whatever is called). My highest being 53 and lowest 30, anyway I think its time to move on. If they take all the things that made everquest great and remove all the things that made it frustrating etc, then as gamers we could be left with a excellent game...

To all those who are moaning about their lvl60 Charactors then imagine this, if we never bothered to advance then we'd still be playing doom and med95 insted of Quake3 or Everquest.

Furthermore I believe that they are going to set this game, whatever it may be, two centuries from the current century in everquest and 50% of the game will be new zones and the other 50% will be the same zones but with massive changes implimented in them. Wouldn't it be cool walking through a city that has been abandoned and left to its own devices? How about commonlands turning into a jungle? Or maybe one of the oceans has been permentally frozen and turned into a whole new land. ETC ETC

Its time to move on ladies and gentlemen and I for one cant wait....

I can see where Verant would have to clean up their code after so many patches, but why would they switch to Turbine's AC2 engine. From what I have seen, the plans to EQ2 seem uncannily similar to those of AC2, and if this is the case I will go with Turbine.

I have several friends whom play Asheron's Call,(AC) and all are eager to play the new AC2, because it will primarily stay consistant with its predecessor, and will also provide all the advantages of MMORG second generation games. When I started playing, I had a choice, and I chose Everquest(EQ). Some of Verant's aspects of the game may have seemed either weaker, or more harsh than Turbine's, but I liked the whole of the game and chose Verant's product. Now Verant is coming out with its own second generation MMORG, but it won't stay consistant with its predecessor. This bothers me. If they are going to copy AC2, why should I not go with the company that created and perfected that engine?

If Verant supports EQ after the release of EQ2, I will stay where I am, but if not then I will switch my loyalties to Turbine. This is all based on the description of the EQ2 engine as it stands. If EQ2 becomes more consistant with the EQ game I love, then I will probably play EQ2.

Why remake a already great game instead of making changes to it?? If EQ2 is gonna be so much better and everybody gonna switch to it why have i spend all this time perfecting my Chrs and finding nice gear?? I say upgrade and support EQ (1) instead of this clonning and improving CRAP!!... If ya want something diffrent make a new game but dont call it EQ2 plz!!!

ok, first off.. i am an avid Everquest player and have played for a long time on many different servers(pvp being the best).
Secondly, i have just finished 2hrs 20mins of reading the forum posts up to this point and i must say, many(most) of you are quite obsessive about all the "hard work" you have put into everquest, and are also very "uninformed" about the process of creating a quality gameing experience for consumers.
I am sure by now we all know this refers to EQ2. I for one am happy to hear of all the new features they will be offering me as a player.
I, personally am a game designer myself, with participation in all(in some degree) aspects of a game(mainly graphics and 3d models and environment). From the posts i have heard, none of you understand exactly why it is that you like everquest to begin with. The new features given will increase interactivity as well as provide a much more rich and complex environment to more easily immerse yourself into.
For all those who are crying selfishly "what about all my lvl 60 chars that i have workes sooooo hard on and spen sooooo much time and money on!" i have one thing to say:
EQ2.
-notice the 2?
that means its a whole other game. If you cant let go of your chars that you have with EQ, thats fine, stay with EQ. i am sure it will continue as a game.
As for those of us who consider the origional EQ to be an appetizer of things to come, we will be STARTING a new character, as well as a new adventure with EQ2.

overall, the game sounds great, and none of you who are flaming it have any right to do so, as you have not played, or even seen enough of it to make a decision. you can just take all your "loyalty" (selfishness) and stay in the past.

by the way, all these features will never be included into the current engine as the whole premise for the creators to do it is to make more money, take it from a creator: a new game = a new vessel to carry new bells and whistles to players for a new fee.

oh ya, and it will absolutely NOT be a single player RPG as those make no money.

SOE if your reading this (or fished your way to it), great ideas, great look, hope you can pull it off. I do have 2 issues you have probably already addressed... first, for gods sake, give us a larger inventory capacity. and second, finite amount of in-game world space = limited number of player land ownership... look at any Ultima Online server.