When I read this I can't help thinking about what they said about DoD.

-You can turn into a spirit shroud and play with your lower level friends and gain exp for your main at the same time.
The spirit shrouds level very slowly and they give your main very little exp. They are much less powerful than a player at the same level. It is easier just to PL your friends to a high enough level to group with you.

-Monster missions
MMs (after they fixed them) are almost useless. Many of them are too hard to be worth the time. Missions like the naggy mission were interesting to begin with, but after a while they become old and lose all their appeal.

-Gain evolving and intelligent items.
This is the only feature of the three here that I would consider worth the time of writing into the game. The way they implemented it though made it almost not worth doing. Most items have very few levels. Why make an item that you have to level up for a relativley short time and not just give you the item to begin with? It would have been much better if items had like 100 levels and took much longer to get to max. Every level they increase a stat by one.

While it is understandable that anyone selling a product exagerates their product, I'm sure the implementation of their features will be much less appealing than they advertise. I haven't played the beta so I have no idea about how they implement traps or spheres of influences. Just from the description of destroyable objects they sound a lot like evolving items. Their implementation makes it almost not worth doing. What is the point in making doors and walls destroyable? It allows you to interact with the world in ways that most single player games much less MMORGPs don't. However, I don't see the what it brings to the game. Whether you walk in through the door or knock down the wall what difference does it make? After a while the "neatness factor" is gone and all it does is take more processing time and network bandwidth. It would have been MUCH better if they allowed players to interact with the world on a deeper level. For example have a zone that is being fought over by vampires and a norathian army. Then give players the ability to affect the outcome of the war and the future of the zone or even the connecting zones. This too would lose its "neatness factor", but at least it would be usefull. To keep it from being a one time event, a GM event, and to make it permanent they could make several events. Some would be triggered by a timer or a GM and others could be triggered by players through a quest. They could make the zones truely dynamic and always changing.

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Sony is just too greedy, all these no drop items requires you have to buy the expansion to possibly get the new spell or new items. Their transparent arguement that "farmering" is the reason for this no drop policy can be seen as frivilous in light of prices now in Bazaar. Despite making everything no drop in all new expansions, prices in the bazaar are increasing almost exponentially .I have not even got half of the no drop spells from OoW so why buy this expansion? Also, the bait and switch routine in DoD where they let missions go as originally introduced until they figure they have reached a saturation market then they change these missions and bring them in line with the paltry xp advances of previous expansions. "New trading skill stuff" duh- they are so greedy that the probability of a skill level increase is about 2 standard deviations from the normal mean for a success; talk about having to be brain dead to do smithy tradeskills, just sit thru 100 thru 400 trys for a skill advance. Also, the experience advance is so paltry that it belies belief. Sony is milking people of money. I am though buying these expansions with all this no drop crap

I think the expansion that is coming is going to make the game more fun and interesting. The issue with the bugs there is always going to be bugs no matter if they have a new expansion or wiether they wait.

HOLY HELL! I haven't even finished Velious. Like the rest, I'll wait around for the Super Platinum Titanium Quartz version previously mentioned - it will take 6 days to install all 25 of their expansions, but I will save drastically...

PoR - prounounced like poor - ala coming out with another expansion already.

If you have watched the news lately, there have been several items about SONY's financial problems. They have a new CEO and many of their subs are getting heads chopped. At this point in time, SOE will do anything it can to make money. The divisions that produce will not have as many heads chopped off. Its easy to see why this expansion was put out ... SOE employees are worried about their jobs.

Whatever happened to the warrior abilities that was able to enable wars to solo? Did all classes except wariors get upgraded? There were plans in the works to allow wars abilities to solo but not allow those abilities during raids/groups.

I can possibly use 8 more bank slots but it's not worth $30 (x 2 chars)! I only get expansions just in case i might go to them. I have never set foot in about 1/2 the expansions that have come out.

This expansion shows little in usable and/or new content!

I will NOT buy this expansion so I can "Break down a wall" - sheez!

OK, I am really impressed by this. I mean launching another expansion already is truly amazing. Will we have two or three expansions this year sweet SOE? Could be four if your really nice. Oh by the way this was sarcasm.

Lets see last year I payed for twelve full months and I could not play for a total ofat least one month due to the bugs in the last two exspansions. It was even worse the year before that though, I had to cancle my internet provider because your techs told me EQ did not function with it. This caused me to have to change to another with all the cost and bother soley owned by myself. It was still three months and around $300.00 in new equipment and ISP fees because before they decided it was my ISP they told me it was my graphics card.

Oh and lets not forget all the lost time due to patches or the Great server crashes after each new launch. Nor do we forget all the bugs and glitches the unfinshed quests/tasks...Unfinshed Quests/Tasks how can you have unfinshed quests/tasks when you've allready realsed it? Oh wait they were broken or not being performed corectly or "You and the 1500 others who are having trouble are doing something wrong, it's not our problem".

Oh by the way what happened to the all the improvments to CS that were supposed to have happend two years ago? Oh wait that right you replaced /ignore with /send automated oblique E-mail requesting customer search FAQs first (fix SOEs problems for them) then /ignore oh and inorder to get that far first you have to search for a petition that matches what you whant even if you know there isn't going to be any, before you can create a new one.

One last thing. Shall we all expect to recieve everything promised on the retail box this time? I know silly question right after all it's not like You've ever kept a promise even given what you have advertised. "What could he mean?" You no doubt ask. I seem to rember buying a box that said on the cover "additional spell slot" also looking at onlne adds taht said the same, but when I bought it I find you have to AA's in order to get it? So if your below level 51 you can't have it What no wait it was below level 61? So how many people who bought that exspansion had at least one toon over 61 that could earn those AA's? Not I! Nor my Friend!

I can say this I am sure I won't be rushing to EB for this one. Not for 8 bank slots that you probably have to finish 5 multi guild raids or have 1000 AA's and be level 71 (yes I know you can only go up to 70, but it wouldn't be the first STUPID mistake SOE has made) in order to get. No I shall wait till X-mas or next year maybe, Or just untill all the problems are fixed (please see never, thankyou).

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Hello to you all!

I'm posting here (and I usually don't) because I can't put up at all with the new upcoming expansion Prophecy of Ro .

I find this, from SOE, totally insulting to the whole player comunity.

Coming up with a new expansion right after Depths of Darkhollow? And that's not the first time. How do they dare coming up with a whole new piece of world when most of the old one is still to be made... full of bugs, caster items with melee mods (such as attack etc...), and a total crap design on the last raid zone expansion's loot (which is worse than the previous expansion's one).

I don't know if you have noticed, but SOE is launching expansions one behind the other faster every time. And each of the expansions, comes with more bugs than the last one, unfinished and way less worked than the last one. Also, the time invested on finishing one is getting progressively way lesser.


Why they do that so much, and why people won't stop doing what they want? Well it's utterly clear, and it's all about the competence.

Be reallistic, absolutely all of you are playing EverQuest to become better and better, and you work for your improves (or take the easy way and buy em from Psychoo with 0 effort ). Even if you say you play for fun, you know you are in need to be at the same "level" (and with the level word, I'm talking about the level, AA, spells, equipment... and the whole things that make your character able to, for example hunt in a zone, or in another).

In conclusion, you are dependant of the character skills. And your character skills, must go with the other's character skills if you want to do something that requires of certain skills. And oh! if you think a little you will realise... if I don't keep on with the others... I'll be left behind, and I won't be able to do things others do, and I won't be a nice player... And, if you don't keep your EQ updated to the last expansion, it's hard you can keep on with the rest.

SOE isn't stupid, they are actually pretty nice with the business maths! They know the players feel like what I have explained on the previous paragraph, and they make use of it. They know if they launch an expansion, whatever it is and the good or the crap it is, people will buy it because they are bound to it, and they feel "obligated".

Now think seriously, when an expansion comes out and you don't like it... and then you buy it, why do you do it? There is only one possible answer, and it's because the others do. And that's a normal lemming reaction to this kind of competence; the same happens in the industries, if the Company_A has a better and faster machine than the Company_B, B will try and get it just because otherwise they would be left behind A, even if B old machines were still working correctly. I invite you to remember the moment when you click the "Order" (or Pre-Order) button of an expansion which you know will just be crap, and standing in front the screen with an idiot feeling and a bitter taste left.

I know it's really hard not to buy an expansion when all your friends, guild, etc. are buying it, and that's why I made this post; to see if people would really buy an expansion they don't like if the rest didn't.

New expansion includes few zones, no and I reapeat: NO levels or new AA, 1 or 2 spells, 8 bank slots (I think they ran out of ideas and had to come up with something more to attract the customers), and some weird new improved game system which we will get working if lucky on 2042 and which I guess it will have the same effect of Shroud system (almost as useless as most of DoDH spells!). It sounds totally like a Legacy of Ykesha 2.0 (1 zone useful to make 1 level or powerlevel 5, bank slots, and a new thing to the game to attract the people a little) with a Dragons of Norrath raid system (2 or 3 mobs then it's done!). And hey! all that for ONLY 30$!!! (30 x 10000000... is what SOE will get tho!); and to be honest I don't care of paying whatever as long as it goes with the correspondent price, money doesn't matter if well invested... but I see the 30$ as a pronunciation of the insult, let them laugh at us lemmings.



So once again, I'd like you to express your feelings as I did (I guess it's clear I'm very upset about this action!) and if you could say please, since my idea of this post was to be a Poll but I couldn't make one :)

- Will you buy the expansion?

- Would you buy the expansion if others didn't? Or you are just buying it because of the rest?

- You don't want to at all and are very pissed, but you know you will end buying it?


I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks that way, actually here is a clear example:

http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20060104


I know it's utopian, but if we could get the top players and guilds not to buy the expansion (since it's the place where more competence is found in the game, and in most high end guilds gettnig the expansions is mandatory); and then convince casual players, or what is the same, players not bound to a high end guild, to follow the decision of the rest, what would you do? Would you stay with the resistance? Or buy the expansion to be a little better than the rest? Just think what would you do regardless the others.


Thanks for reading! :) Vek

Oh my god, SOE is so evil. They make you pay $30 for an expansion every six months...those bastards! It just so happens that this is what people and businesses do to make money, it is called making a living. This actually is taking place every day around the world believe it or not. You want to know who the money-grubbers and crooks are? Just look at the over-whelming number of drug ads on television. We're talking about companies who are pocketing super-inflated profits from sick and dying people and have no interest in finding an actual cure unless they can make a profit from it thus limiting your choices to their drugs and nothng else.

I say keep the expansions coming. I love all of them and it gives me something to look forward to. To be honest I do think this one in particular seems a little weak since it doesn't have the usual aa's or the level cap increase I was hoping for. All I see in it is an extra 8 bank slots. But I'll still buy it, nevertheless.

Well i personally find this expansion interesting...because of one idea...you can effect the world...destroy things...interesting how they might do this....now if they would finally add housing...i would be praising this expansion as the best yet....

The main reason there are 10 expansions is simple....money...twice a year Sony sells 100000 copies of a $30 expansion....they do this because it makes them money...i am sure as we speak they are already making plans for the expansion after this one...and the one after that....EQ is like a Robert Jordan Novel...the story never ends...and i sort of like it that way :)

A lot of opinions are raised here and I must admit a lot of them valid in their own way. Since I've started playing EQ I have been loving the game and I am still playing.

Admitedly the content of a lot of the expansions are still out of reach for me but that does not bother me. I am playing the game to have fun.

Always wanted to be in a good guild and get the help I need to take down the big guys, been stabbed in the back too many times by the guilds existing to aid only a few the rest just pawns for them to use. So I solo most of the time and find the odd group to play with. Been on 2 raids since I started playing.

The point I am trying to make is there is a lot of EQ content I have not even seen or can dream about seeing, yet I am still here, still playing and still having fun, and still getting all the new expansions.

For me the most positive thing of new expansions is that it offers new content for the 'Uber' to focus on and leaving older zones alone giving people like me the opportunity to move in at our own pace and enjoy the game.

I am not saying the 'Uber' don't enjoy the game, I firmly believe they do. What I have noticed is that EQ is so diverse thanks to all the expansions that it offers so many different ways for players to enjoy the game and each one can enjoy the game in their own way, do the things you like and have fun doing them.

If you don't like the content an expansion offers don't get the expansion as simple as that it does not stop you from playng the game it merely restricts what content is available to you.

All these expansions gives you the oportunity to create a gaming world you feel comfortable playing in. Get the expansions you are interested in and leave the ones you don't want.

The only thing I have to gripe about is the Availability of EQ in South Africa. I think it's nice of SOE to give little incentive gifts for buying the game however the game not being available in stores in South Africa means that the South African market is still bare (Thousands of availaalbe players with no exposure to what this game can offer them) Buying it online and having it shipped at least tripples the cost thus making it ridiculous, so I resot to Digital Downloads for all new expansion (After the great expense of having my firsat copy shipped to me)

I am here to have fun and will keep having fun as long as I can play. For me this game has given me a lot more than any other I have come accross and I use the content I like and the things I do not like I merely leave be. That is the greatest thing EQ offers .... CHOICE

Personally, eq NEEDS to stop making expansions, and make the ones its got BETTER, for example, LDON, that was some of the most fun i ever had in eq, now no one dose them do to poor exp and loot, so why not make it better, instead if making anoter one, but that leaves the "how are they gona make $$$ issue", but no one ever listens to the druid now do they....
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