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#1 Feb 25 2008 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
Look what I found today on ffxi.com:

http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=1169747

http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=1168929

I would be very careful about buying astrals, snipers, woodmans or elusive earrings on the AH because you may be paying a stupid RMT price for them.
#2 Feb 25 2008 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah this has pissed me off the past few weeks because they had done the same thing to Melody Earrings+1. They were 60k prettymuch the whole month then when I need them they shot up to 300k lol.

For some reason the same RMT brought the price on the AH list back down to 60k a few days ago. However, they are apparently still listed above 100k so I havent been able to get any >_>
#3 Feb 25 2008 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
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They're doing that to Penitent's Ropes too, going for a steady 150k for the last inf weeks and then suddenly they're magically 350k-400k for 10 transactions...

All it takes is for real people to not buy those things that are being severely price gouged, eventually the AH fees will just do them in.
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#4 Feb 26 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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I like the 2nd picture where the RMT is selling to the RMT. ;)
#5 Feb 26 2008 at 11:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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I still wonder if Nyanhime is Auction House RMT.
#6 Feb 27 2008 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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The prices all seem so... low, though.

You guys would've shat yourselves about a year ago. lol
#7 Feb 28 2008 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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This is seriously ticking me off though. I have been camping the AH for over a week now trying to get a Woodsman ring. AH history 90-100k, and I have bid up to 110k with 4 on AH with no results. Then all the sudden a couple sell for 190k then back down they go to 90-100k. I could afford to pay more, but I feel like they win that way and I can't bring myself to give them my gil. I wish RMT and all their stupid games would just go away already.
#8 Feb 28 2008 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nyanhime is annoying too. He/she buys any item off the Auction house that can be sold to an NPC for profit, even if it's 1 gil.

Example:
A friend of mine was trying for quite a while to get a Serpentine Gun for his RNG because it is a really nice gun for level 34.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=17256&sid=25

This is the listing on FFXIAH.com. Notice the Gun being bought several times by Nyanhime.

Now check this:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Serpentine_Gun

The gun Npc's for a profit of ~3-500 gil when bought for 10k off the Auction House. Notice Nyanhime only purchases them for 10k or less.

See also:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=2150&sid=25
Colibri Feather
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=5072&sid=25
Goddess' Hymnus
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4877&sid=25&stack=0
Absorb-Agi (more than 2 purchases...because DRK need to use the scrolls more than once?)
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4878&sid=25&stack=0
Absorb-Int
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4876&sid=25&stack=0
Absorb-Vit
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4613&sid=25&stack=0
Cure V
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4659&sid=25&stack=0
Shell IV
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4741&sid=25&stack=0
Shellra IV (a bunch of times)
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=5022&sid=25&stack=0
Warding Round (4 times in a row!)

It keeps going. That's just some scrolls. There is a lot of equipment as well. Nyanhime cleared their Viewable Transactions from FFXIAH.com so you can't see them.
I took a while to get Shellra IV because Nyanhime kept buying them when I was leveling WHM. I'd pay more than the npc price, I don't care. But it kind of annoyed me when I couldn't get what I needed so Nyanhime could make a few hundred gil.
#9 Feb 28 2008 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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It's unfortunate that this goes on but it's been going on a long time - Myself, Praxis and Dreauce needed a Penitants Rope each and Dreauce had been trying to buy one @ 150k for a couple of weeks with no luck, even after going up to 200k he couldn't get one....in the end rather than messing around trying to wait for the price fixing to sort itself out we just went and did the BCNM ourselves. We went 3/6 on the Rope and it was worth every last seal.

There are so many examples of price fixing and it's pretty easy to find the people doing it - ffxiah.com is a godsend for that.
#10 Feb 28 2008 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Playing devil's advocate here:

Is Nyanhime annoying just because every time you go to he AH to get the item you need it's not there and he's usually the last person to buy the item?

Or is it just because he's found a way to pick up some extra gil without leaving town and you're going out farming and burning seals and what not?

You can do it yourself. Nothing's stopping you from doing exactly what he's doing.

I look at it this way: In order to make money, you need to be willing to spend it. He's spending gil for a profit of a few hundred gil. It's really not that great of a profit and by the end of a week, providing he takes in a profit of 10k per day, he gets roughly ~70k. Not too bad considering all you need to do is hang out in town.

Really, it's just kind of opposite of crafters. They try to buy stuff from NPC as much as they can when the NPC sells the items they need cheap. Then, they take the crafted item and sell for a profit at the AH. People don't hate crafters because they do this (legit crafters) so why hate someone doing the same thing only opposite?
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#11 Feb 28 2008 at 7:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Really, it's just kind of opposite of crafters. They try to buy stuff from NPC as much as they can when the NPC sells the items they need cheap. Then, they take the crafted item and sell for a profit at the AH. People don't hate crafters because they do this (legit crafters) so why hate someone doing the same thing only opposite?


That is completely opposite. Crafters are adding items to the game; Nyanhime is essentially deleting them. Why would you hate someone who's adding items? That's like hating someone for farming beehive chips. And deleting items also raises the prices. Similar to say buying up all the Astral Rings, or Snipers Rings, and raising the prices.

I don't like that in order to get a Shellra IV scroll, I no longer have the convenience that I would have had from buying it from the Auction house because Nyanhime (whos is always standing in lower jeuno for hours and could even potentially be a bot) is always buying them to make a tiny amount of profit.

Let's say though that you wanted a Mantra Belt. They only come from BCNM40, and they're quite cheap. They sell on the AH usually for 1k.
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=15287&stack=0&sid=25

So Nyanhime buys them all. I think it's a little ridiculous to spend 40 seals for a shot at getting a mantra belt instead of buying it from the auction house for 1k. Granted if you do Under Observation you may get a PCC but that's aside from the point. You may not be able to get it because Nyanhime decided that he wanted to make a few hundred gil.

Personally, I would rather someone else have the 1k item from the auction house if they really want the item rather than making myself an extra 200 gil. But that's because I don't delete items from the server for minimal profits, and I try to think of other people within reason.

And as far as making 70k gil a week from standing at the auction house all day each day? It's only really worth it if you're AFK botting, and if you're doing that you're a Richard.
You could easily go out and make MORE than that 70k in a day rather than standing at the auction house all day deleting items from the game.

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You can do it yourself. Nothing's stopping you from doing exactly what he's doing.


I could but I'm not a douche like Nyanhime, so I don't. Nothing is stopping me from farming on EXP mobs in heavily used camps either (like farming silk thread in the crawler's nest for leveling clothcraft), but you won't see me doing something like that either.

And for the record, I hated Nyanhime the moment I noticed he what he was doing. I did hate him more later when I was actually affected by it, but it's not just a personal thing.

Edited, Feb 28th 2008 10:08pm by Annalise
#12 Feb 29 2008 at 5:28 AM Rating: Good
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This raises the question of why people are listing things on the AH for less then the sell to vendors for in the first place.. That already shouldn't be happening.

I can tell you the procedure I, and my friends, go through after completing a set of BC runs. We compare the AH price to vendor prices and then, get this, we sell it to whichever of those is HIGHER... Weird I know but we're crazy and we don't like losing money for no particularly good reason.

Now, from the posts about Nyanhime's activity, it sounds like he could be botting, which of course is a serious no-no. But if he's not (and let's be honest, you could never prove that he is) it sounds like he's just taking advantage of the people who aren't bothering to check the vendor price before they list some super-cheap item for a tiny amount of money.
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#13 Feb 29 2008 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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I buy stuff of the AH if I can NPC it for more, madness not too. A lot of the prices get this way due to the constant undercutting that is a signature of RMT trying to trap a market. There is a number of things that I farm, that NPC for higher than the AH price. So when I see those items on the AH I buy them up. I don't camp the AH, but i check on my way to NPC.

I don't really see it as being the same thing that the OP has noticed, I don't racketeer with other players. I just exploit AH traders that don't do their research.

Conversely I can buy a number of items from NPC cheaper than the AH, I also buy up these and sell them on the AH. I can pretty much make an extra 10-20k every time I visit Jeuno just from Buying low and selling higher.

Would you suggest that I don't buy them, or sell them, just because I can make a profit?

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Similar to say buying up all the Astral Rings, or Snipers Rings, and raising the prices.


Not really, these people are working in a group to be able to do that, and I do not agree with it as they are fixing prices.

The only reason the other method works, is because the prices DON'T go up, if they did then there wouldn't be a profit to make. This would make the crafter's in the wrong, they keep the price down that low, where it no longer became sensible to sell to AH, and some half-wit keeps putting the stuff on the AH. If they didn't then this item would NEVER be available from AH until the price rose above that of NPC+AH fee, and we know what people think of rising prices.

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That is completely opposite. Crafters are adding items to the game; Nyanhime is essentially deleting them. Why would you hate someone who's adding items?


I am sure that there are crafted skill up items that fetch a similar or better price from NPC than AH, are all crafters who do this instead bad people?

The OP has just given us a great example of how farming higher priced items for a huge profit can fail, as it is pretty much impossible to check the AH for price history, at least a price with any integrity.

My playtime is limited, I can project how much gil i can make per farming session by selling to NPC, the profit is instant, so storage is kept free.
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#14 Mar 04 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I do the same thing as well. Say I get a random scroll from killing some gob in Cape Teriggan. I check the NPC price and the AH price and, whichever is higher, that's who gets it. Or, if after the posting fee, the price is similar, NPC gets it.

Simply put, the AH sucks. The rampant undercutting blows. The price jacking sucks. And those items that sell on the AH that goes for a higher price to an NPC aren't *that* hard to obtain, nor are they that uncommon. Hence the cheap cost of said item.

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Personally, I would rather someone else have the 1k item from the auction house if they really want the item rather than making myself an extra 200 gil. But that's because I don't delete items from the server for minimal profits, and I try to think of other people within reason.


This is you. Is everyone like you? Nope. If someone sees a way to make a profit, chances are, they're going to take it and not give a damn about someone who needs w/e item it is. Can you honestly say that you've always posted an item at the AH just so someone else could have a crack at it and in the process you're losing gil?

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I could but I'm not a douche like Nyanhime, so I don't. Nothing is stopping me from farming on EXP mobs in heavily used camps either (like farming silk thread in the crawler's nest for leveling clothcraft), but you won't see me doing something like that either.


I wouldn't do something like that either. Anybody that did, would be an *** of large proportions.

As for the deleting items from the game thing: Things need to be deleted from the game. Gil needs to come out of the game. It keeps things balanced in a way. If there's 10 Serp. Guns posted, how frequently are there 10 Rngs that need that item? This leads to an undercut most of the time. People want that all important fast sell. And they'll undercut the item quite a bit to get it.(Avoiding AH fees is a moot point due to the low cost in Jeuno.) Essentially, Nyanhime is keeping the cost of that gun stabilized, or the cost a bit higher than normal. And, if you have the ability to farm it, what's wrong with getting more gil than you would have normally?
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#15 Mar 17 2008 at 9:49 PM Rating: Good
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Gonna' throw a little something out there, no essays or anything for me this time around. I'm not even going to take a side.

But yeah, just keep in mind that everything the RMT can repeatedly sell to each other on the AH in an attempt to jack the price up came from, well... somewhere.

And I'm pretty positive that if they can obtain whatever this life-altering item may be, so can you.

Furthermore, the first person to seriously pop up on here and say something along the lines of "ez 4 u 2 say cuz u buy gilz" should prolly chill and keep that to themselves, 'cause I've heard it plenty of times... and repeating it is never going to make that true. I'm a broke *** college student. lol, and before college... I was still broke. Fawkes and Arelios never had to pay for gas, cigarettes, alcohol and recreational drugs. I did, and I still do.

You'd be surprised how few things in this game actually entirely rely on gil.

Start thinking outside the Auction House :]

Edited, Mar 18th 2008 1:58am by Arelios
#16 Mar 17 2008 at 9:55 PM Rating: Decent
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ez 4 u 2 say cuz u buy... oh you said seriously say that..my bad...
#17 Mar 17 2008 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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lol, damn DB with the quick fingers and all that. I was still editing when you posted that XD

I'm coming back soon, by the way :D
#18 Mar 18 2008 at 6:11 AM Rating: Default
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http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=1187793

Noticed this.

This is bull pucky.

also... Could someone please report these 3 players? I am unable to access the STF Website from work ><

Here is the link:

https://secure.playonline.com/supportus/exmf.html#stt

Edited, Mar 18th 2008 10:34am by Bleam
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#19 Mar 18 2008 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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They haven't done anything since March 2nd, so they were most likely banned. Look for other characters that have up to date dates on them.
#20 Mar 18 2008 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Alright, I have made a list of some characters that I've seen on the AH sell back and forth to each other multiple times over the last couple of days.

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Carroe
Capsky
Kioner
Sims
Suwein
Fiare
Binasg
Hammo
Vacher
Nicoise
Ayrie
Tayhha
Koneru
Cacike
Icarian
Stork
Hoyle
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Check out FFXIAH.com and see for yourself. They seem to only buy and sell certain high demand items.

Items:
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scouter's rope
penitent's rope
brown belt
flame ring
woodsman ring
astral ring
sniper's ring
fuma kyahan
merman's earring
elusive earring
assault earring
Woodville's axe
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Edited, Mar 18th 2008 4:16pm by Bleam

Also, I submitted report to STF on these characters.

Edited, Mar 18th 2008 5:23pm by Bleam
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