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#1 Aug 15 2006 at 5:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Recent dunes pt:

party: Dude why are you /nin?
WHM: I'm trying something new, just experimenting. I can dual-wield clubs for more MND.
me: um... you're only Lv 16. Dual-wield what now?

White mage runs out of mp repeatedly, many deaths, party disbands.

Recent Qufim search for party members:

Seeking:
24war/07rdm
23whm/05blm
22nin/05war
23rdm/02whm

O.o

Recent Qufim party:
Leader: ok whm dc'd... we'll give him a couple mins.
2minutes pass
Leader: I'll ask the whm lfg
Party: ok
Leader: If (player) comes back I'll boot the new whm
me: No
Leader: ?
me: whm dc'd, we waited, he was replaced... you don't boot someone because orig. party member comes back after dcing. That's just rude.
blu: yeah
Leader: but (player) was OG
me: I don't care if he was the king of spain.

In short: experiment on your own time, level yer damn sub, be courteous to people.

Been awhile since I posted here. Does "Let the ratedowns begin." still apply?
#2 Aug 15 2006 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I know it's been a while bro, but the dunes haven't changed. every generation of noobs think they have found thr "new" perfect job combo's. Just let it ride, and they will figure it out or quit playing.
#3 Aug 15 2006 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
Hopefully the latter.
#4 Aug 15 2006 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I did Whm/nin fine until 37. Any SJ is fine as long as you do what you suppose to.
#5 Aug 15 2006 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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He meant because you don't get dual wield until nin10, so there is absolutely no point in subbing it before 20.
#6 Aug 15 2006 at 6:52 PM Rating: Good
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24war/07rdm
23whm/05blm
22nin/05war
23rdm/02whm


=/ The only one I could see is the NIN who could possibly be a gil seller. Other then that... ignorance is still pretty shocking to me, I would rather see someone without a SJ over 24WAR/7RDM or 23RDM/2!!WHM... I mean Jesus... I can take a job from level 1-10 in 90 minutes with level 1 JSE and an onion weapon.
#7 Aug 15 2006 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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well I did whm/pld until 20 coz I had no mage sub at that time. I remember alot people trying to give me hell even my own LS members were making fun of me. But now look back, I did what I have to do as whm, and I got over it. It worked ok.
#8 Aug 15 2006 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I went whm/pld in the dunes primarily because I didn't trust the tanks there and wanted the extra VIT and defense for that.
#9 Aug 15 2006 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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actually the extra VIT doesnt really matter, I only used it coz i had no option.. :X
#10 Aug 16 2006 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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well I did whm/pld until 20 coz I had no mage sub at that time.


word.
#11 Aug 16 2006 at 7:00 AM Rating: Good
GaranTheElvaan wrote:
Recent dunes pt:

party: Dude why are you /nin?
WHM: I'm trying something new, just experimenting. I can dual-wield clubs for more MND.
me: um... you're only Lv 16. Dual-wield what now?

White mage runs out of mp repeatedly, many deaths, party disbands.



Looking at naked stats

Tarutaru Whm/Blm MP @ level 16 202
Tarutaru Whm/Nin MM @ Level 16 178


MP Difference 24 or 1 Cure II or 3 Cure I's


That party died a lot and disbanded because they were fighting things that were too tough for them or the had some crazy party make up that was incapable of dealing damage. Not because the Whm was subbing Ninja.


I am now taking my third chartacter through the dunes and it is abysmal at the moment. People sub whatever. Dont have a sub. Or dont care. they will learn eventually. If they dont they will eventually be left on the sidelines while the people with better sub job choices are snapped up. I think most people at the moment are so desperate to get out of there and out of Qufim that they will just take anything that can make a 6 person party and go level.




#12 Aug 16 2006 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
I've been lucky with my NIN. She's got one more level to go, and the last party I had was perfect. Me and another NIN, MNK, THF, WAR, WHM. All with proper subs and good gear, we were tearing through pugs. I was sad it had to end but they all dinged 20 right before I hit 19.

I'm hoping to find a party to go do beetles in Saur. Champaign to 20 but those parties are rare.
#13 Aug 16 2006 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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just go to quifm now. you can be the 19 in a 19-21 party. I did it with rdm, sam, nin, and thf. go get em tiger.
#14 Aug 16 2006 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
I'm skeered. Who will hold me?
#15 Aug 16 2006 at 5:43 PM Rating: Good
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Paulisdead da Basher wrote:

Looking at naked stats

Tarutaru Whm/Blm MP @ level 16 202
Tarutaru Whm/Nin MM @ Level 16 178


MP Difference 24 or 1 Cure II or 3 Cure I's



If I remember correctly he was elvaan or hume with about 160mp with food when he used it, which was once in about the hour we tried to make it work. Meaning for half the time he was there he had about 130 mp... we were fighting crabs and the odd fly. While I agree 24 mp isn't much, try to chain with a crap mp pool on the WHM... those 3 cure 1's would have been nice, only takes one of them to save a life.

All of which is beside the point. Subbing nin offered exactly NOTHING to himself or the party and was pointless. If he was a rookie with no sub at least he had an excuse. If you're in a party and have the option to sub a job that will benefit your main then you do it. When you're goofing off in the highlands and want to see if /nin helps your melee capability then by all means.

Which brings me back to his reason behind subbing nin in the first place....

I wrote:

party: Dude why are you /nin?
WHM: I'm trying something new, just experimenting. I can dual-wield clubs for more MND.
me: um... you're only Lv 16. Dual-wield what now?
#16 Aug 17 2006 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't be scart..i'll PL you with my 68DRK/rdm till 20
#17 Aug 17 2006 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
Now I'm really skairt.
#18 Sep 05 2006 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
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GaranTheElvaan

i feel you bro , its sucks when you try to build a pt @ dunes or even @ Qufim and btw noobs @ everywhere and @ any lvl you can find one or 2 here and there
( like that rdm69/pld34 in one of my TP burn pt, pt setup was: 3 wars nin whm and him, didnt know until it was too late.... and he was meleeing , no refresh for whm , no curing for melee , i went down to 100 hp and i gat a CURE1!!!!! when he was full of mp.... that was sad ) but anyway,

most noobs will one day learn how to play , we sub what we want!!! thats right but also we sub what makes us better or do our job the best way it can be done.

i had to quit lvling sam and mnk 4-5 times in the last 3 months just coz every lvl or 2 noobs bugs me off... so i switch hoping for a less "noobish" pt.

i'm not perfect... but @ least i try to do my best.

pt lvl 33-34 @ GS:
leader was war/drk with Vit equip no earing , rings or back using lvl 10 GS....

me: hay xyz why /drk , wouldnt /thf /nin /mnk would be better =) ?

him: i play the game the way i want and i sub whatever job i think its the best, and it wouldnt be cool if everyone sub the same job would it ?

me:.....

him: and i only lvl war for my sub so i dont care
...........

now i would understand that he just want to lvl a sub , but for me i lvl my subs the best way i can , could always sell my gears back, also he was rank 5.... that what makes me sad really......

just wanted to take that off my chest and...

BURN NOOBS DOWN!!!!
>.>
#19 Sep 05 2006 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Dont elvaan have enough mind as it is?

#20 Sep 06 2006 at 3:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, i just level until 20 solo now where possible, and just have to brave the Quifm parties for the 3 or 4 levels that i have to. I just get too frustrated with it all.
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#21 Sep 06 2006 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
Good indcator is to make your own parties of Rank 6+ in Dunes/Qufim.

Now to defend myself so I dont get flamed as much:
Yep there are good players below rank 6. But most new people just get rank 5 for airship.
There are crap players above rank 6. But its unlikely you will get a rank 2 blm in dunes with a pair of astrals over a rank 10 one. (well makes sense to me).

But to be fair best way is to solo as much as possible or go with linkshell.
#22 Sep 06 2006 at 6:37 AM Rating: Default
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give these new players a chance, they're just trying to have fun like we all are, stop worrying about the gil sellers also who gives a crap if they do that stuff its not like they are killing you and we was once all new players at one time.

Like this is my insights on this.





The game is dieing, I have even lost intrest I took some times to reflect, all you do in the game is farm,bcnm-ksnm-enm, dynamis, missions,quest and the story line is crap some parts are good, you strive to get better gear than what you have now and push yourself to get maat's cap by lvling multi class jobs.

Some stuff is fun, the reason I stay is for someone and chocobo breeding I wanted to test it out, ballista- new ballista- the point system for assaults suck if you want big money you have to join big Ls's, and even if you wanted into a big Ls there is more lvling and missions you have to complete pain in ***.

You all know me as Zanon on game for the past 3 years it was fun, but new players are coming into the game and its gonna be like before I remember when I was lvl 18 warrior I subbed redmage till 41 and rdm was gimped at 16 but give these people a chance you all were there before and it was hard how do you think they feel? new games coming out PSU most people left bismarck for that EQ2 just came out with a expansion people left for that 1400 people were banned for speed hacks alot probably from bismarck ive noticed alot of people disapeared.


No one ever helps like they used to do back then, I remember you didnt have to have certain reqirements to get help rofl now its hey I will help if I get cash or you have to join my Ls or I am to busy right now its diffrent than it was 3 years ago lol.


I dont know if I will quit the game or maybe I will I dont know yet but its only a matter of time before it happens 600+ days I gave out to everyone some dont even remember me some think I am the best damn guy out there and some hate me but I dont hate anyone thats why I think you should all remove that damn bad players list because there is no such thing as a perfect player.


Just everyone have fun I log in each day but its only to check plants and choco then talk and log main thing have fun I did for 3 years but its dieing for me =(


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#23 Sep 06 2006 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
Oh you poor darling. Give me a /tell sometime Z, havent spoken in ages.

Mikey xxx
#24 Sep 06 2006 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Yah, that real sad right there Z, /comfort
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#25 Sep 06 2006 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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i rember u helped me way back when for some rank missions Z :p
#26 Sep 06 2006 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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The game is dieing, I have even lost intrest I took some times to reflect, all you do in the game is farm,bcnm-ksnm-enm, dynamis, missions,quest and the story line is crap some parts are good, you strive to get better gear than what you have now and push yourself to get maat's cap by lvling multi class jobs.

Some stuff is fun, the reason I stay is for someone and chocobo breeding I wanted to test it out, ballista- new ballista- the point system for assaults suck if you want big money you have to join big Ls's, and even if you wanted into a big Ls there is more lvling and missions you have to complete pain in ***.

You all know me as Zanon on game for the past 3 years it was fun, but new players are coming into the game and its gonna be like before I remember when I was lvl 18 warrior I subbed redmage till 41 and rdm was gimped at 16 but give these people a chance you all were there before and it was hard how do you think they feel? new games coming out PSU most people left bismarck for that EQ2 just came out with a expansion people left for that 1400 people were banned for speed hacks alot probably from bismarck ive noticed alot of people disapeared.


No one ever helps like they used to do back then, I remember you didnt have to have certain reqirements to get help rofl now its hey I will help if I get cash or you have to join my Ls or I am to busy right now its diffrent than it was 3 years ago lol.


I couldn't have said it better myself. There is so much repetition in this game it's unbelievable. I think that's the reason SE tends to favor all the high levels when expansions and stuff come out. Try and keep the ones who've been playing the longest playing even longer. They never add any "good" gear to the lower lvls. Maybe it doesn't need it. But, I'd like to see something better than what they offer right now lol

I haven't really experienced that much in game yet. Any dynamis I went on, it was failed. Never fought a god. Only big dragon I've seen was Vrtra (and he's not hard to see at all). I'd kinda like to do all of the things I've yet to experience before I take my last logout. Just how I feel.
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