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What price do rice balls have to be to be able to get utsu quest?

it's bin too long so i have forgoten mine are at 160 now

Rice balls are not a reliable way to check your fame. The price varies (as all NPC items do) with supply and demand as well as fame. The only real way to check your fame is to just go to Norg and talk to the fame checker guy.

And on a side note if you are doing necklaces it only takes about 160 to get enough fame (doing the quest 40 times), so just keep track of how many times you do it. You can pull it off in a few hours so not like it is hard.

I found that the easiest way to increase Norg fame is to mine Zeruhn. A few stacks of pickaxes, a few stacks of fire/wind crystals, and not only do you have a boatload of Zinc ore, but you also have the ability to work on both smithing and goldsmithing. Zeruhn mines are also a great place to level lowbie jobs.

Three nights worth of mining with 3 stacks of pickaxes per night should get you enough zinc ores to boost you up.

I think the equation was:

(Current riceball price -/- 154) times 12 (necklaces) in order to get the number of necklaces you still have to farm for sufficient Norg fame.

So 154 is the minimum price here. I do have to add that I did get the quest at the price of 155 and one time at 154. I suggest you just go to Norg when the price is at 154.

Good luck!

Edited, Sun Apr 16 05:41:57 2006 by Wiseblood

Edited, Sun Apr 16 05:39:41 2006 by Wiseblood

Last edit: I corrected the equation mentioned above ; ; Why I changed 12 into 4 is beyond me. Lemme crawl back into my hole again and feel ashamed of myself while tying myself a noose

Edited, Wed Apr 19 15:24:46 2006 by Wiseblood

Tenshodo merchants are definitely guild-like the way they do pricing. No one buys out all the rice balls in Tenshodo, though. It's not like bronze ingots at the smith guild. So, the price doesn't usually shift by much and it won't shift at all during the same Vanadiel day except due to fame. OTH, it most certainly can and will fluncuate from day to day and you can't really use a price-point from someone else as a test for fame except in the most general way; eg. I might be able to open quest at 160g rice, but you might need 152g. If you're at 200g, though, it's probably safe to say you need more fame work.

Unless you're using a mule for utsusemi:ichi, you might as well just invest in maximizing Tenshodo. You'll want it max or near-max eventually for other things (like SMN Avatars).