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#1 Nov 19 2005 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
hmm. i really shouldnt say this prolly cause a uproar but what ever.

on Oct 7 i did a dynamis-bastok with Forceelite. i was in a rush to go and i was trying to sign up to join there Ls as well since i heard they were a fair bunch of people.

i couldnt sign up to their site cuz of my firewall and that day was the first time i signed up to them. so i got there and when right into the dynamis.

In the first 5 mins the AF RDM 2 gloves droped. being my second time in there dynamis <one beofre was windy and they lost> i was able to lot.

I ate a 4 leaf mandy bud and loted 968. soon after i hear in Ls chat that its my first time in dynamis so i cant lot. so am like wth. then moonpie cleared it up saying no he did it before with them.
Then they say i didnt put a comment which i forgot to do. and because of a simple mistake they told me pass on the lot. now am getting tells from people saying "Dont pass" and other tells telling me "Pass" so am like wth. so i didnt pass. uproar happens and Raamo tells me nick ur banned blah blah blah.

So they break my Ls and am getting hate tells from like 20people and another 20 gratz tells. next they told me i shouldve read the the web site :P when my it was my first time on there site that day.
well i wish i did read it or loted low r something cuz now people dont even want to talk to me because of that. plus people r calling me a rdm/thf. well am not to keen on holding grudges since i have better things to do but for people to /point and me and say RDM/THF in jeuno even till this day, is plain gay.

Am not a bad guy and i always try to help people and for this to go on my record is dumb. am sorry if people think i stole it, but am a noob and dont even have much to hate on. hate on a gil seller or buyer. i still farm silk >.<

well sorry for ranting had to get this off my chest.
peace out. if anyone needs help with like coffer keys ill be glad to help ya out just hit me with a tell.

RDM74 WHM50 DRK37 SMN37
GOD fights 0/0 /cry
#2 Nov 19 2005 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
Hi. I'm the RDM that had the high lot til you lotted.

It was made very, very clear before zoning into Dynamis what their rules are. The rule you missed was having RDM AF lotting in your search comment, which you didn't. I would have (and did, actually) confirmed first before lotting that you've met the requirements. Y'know, before making a mistake and having a big group of people pissed at you. Especially since you're a self proclaimed noob. @_@
#3 Nov 19 2005 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Raamo and Vira ftw, and, this is exactly why a free lot systems screws people who earn things.
#4 Nov 19 2005 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
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RDM AF2 gloves are not so incredible that I would risk pissing off a bunch of people. I'd politely bow out of that lot. Next time you see it drop, make sure you've followed the rules, then lot.
#5 Nov 19 2005 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I ate a 4 leaf mandy bud and loted 968.


Does it actually helps? O_o
#6 Nov 19 2005 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
ugh well i understand there were rules but arent u suppoed to check if everyone has a comment. i know dynamis leaders that write down everyones comment on a piece of paper and check for every one. not my fault if some one didnt check me. i made a simple mistake and i **** off a bunch of people. well if ur still pissed am sorry. but on one note, what did people do when back in the day there wasnt no comment o.0? and besides the gloves went to a very needy rdm. and am a nooooob, sue me :P

well i just hope the people who were mad at me understand am sorry and i wont leave out my comment again {first thing i do when am noted on a dynamis}

on the four leaf bud. it worked for me try it ur self. just eat it before lot {Not responble for low lots and loss of four leaf bud}

WE NEED TO KILL THE GIL SELLERS

RDM 74 you know the rest
#7 Nov 19 2005 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
Yes Nickeny, Raamo had the list of who had what job in their search comment. Before we zoned into Dynamis, he said that he had the final list of who was down for what job. If you had any questions or wanted to confirm with him what he had you down for, to send him a tell before we zoned into Dynamis. Simple enough.
By the way, why are you saying "not my fault if some one didnt check me" when before you said "Then they say i didnt put a comment which i forgot to do."

/shrug Oh well, doesn't really matter now does it, hehe...^^;;

(Edit) P.S.:Dynamis came after search comments, so it was never an issue.

Edited, Sat Nov 19 23:35:41 2005 by Viranakka
#8 Nov 20 2005 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
Nick you seem to be contradicting yourself and on top of that keep throwing remarks about gilsellers at the end trying to make a poor attempt to get people sidetracked of the main topic which is you.

I for one do dynamis with FE and since it is an open-dynamis and they have new people show up each week they go over the rules right b4 they break the glass. Each week its the same it never changes. So either you didnt pay attention or you did what people said you did and stole the ****.

I for one dont care but I just wanted to clarify that the rules were stated b4 entering.
#9 Nov 20 2005 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
Nick i think u did the right thing first of all ya they have there own set of rules, but the lot system was implemented by SE for the very reason to see who gets items and u used an in game item and u did no cheating of the sort and for them to flame u even a few months later after booting u from there ls is just down right wrong.

Edited, Mon Nov 21 03:34:54 2005 by Claudsaturn
#10 Nov 20 2005 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
Also its shows there lil ls has some serious problems if half the ppl are congratulating and the other half are send hate tells. My advice just find another Dynamis ls which there is tons and join it.
#11 Nov 20 2005 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
Someone made a good point, RDM relic gloves aren't so special to be worth pissing off a lot of people over... Then again, if they're not very special, why get pissed off? o.O

It sounds to me like Nick fell in with a bunch of whiny babies for whom the most important part of the game is themselves; not fun, not teamwork, just "one for all and all for me." What was his crime? No search comment. Did he, other than failing to put a comment, have the right to lot? Yup. Are there gonna be more Dynamis runs for the RDMs who didn't get gloves that time? I'd imagine so. So is it worth throwing a tantrum and banning someone because of a simple first-time mistake? I'll let that one stand as a rehtorical.
#12 Nov 20 2005 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
I was told to pass the AF by ls leaders, so there IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON he should not have passed. It is his own fault, he was told to pass, so yes, he did steal it.

I agree, this piece is not THAT great (this coming from a rdm), but if it drops and I am following the rules and outlot everyone, it is mine. If some moron lots, I would be pissed as well.

And to say that everyone in the dynamis has lotting rights is stupid. If you think that way, then I will lot every single piece of AF that drops in dynamis, along with all the currency as well.

ForceElite didn't steal your ls name either...you're an idiot
#13 Nov 20 2005 at 10:48 PM Rating: Good
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ahhh yes, karma bombing to those who are right, and rate ups for douches who couldn't get a job to 75 without a visa card to buy themselves equipment.
#14 Nov 21 2005 at 3:29 AM Rating: Good
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First off, Congrats Nickeny on ur Rdm AF2 gloves. You won them fair and square and you were entitled to them 100%.

Secondly, to FE and all those complaining that he was wrong, he wasnt. Its assumed that people without a search comment will be lotting the job they went as. People dont go to open Dynamis just for the flag.

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And to say that everyone in the dynamis has lotting rights is stupid. If you think that way, then I will lot every single piece of AF that drops in dynamis, along with all the currency as well.


You sir, are ignorant. You shouldnt have to specify that youre lotting Rdm AF if you go as Rdm, thats redundant. Not everyone has the right to lot everything, he didnt lot the other AF that dropped, nor the currency, nor the items.

That being said, LS rules are LS rules, if they wanna be uptight with a stick up their ***, thats fine, theyll continue to force the walk ons to put that they are lotting Rdm AF as Rdm. But it was a mistake, he wouldve put Rdm AF if he had knew to do so, as he said he showed up late. Making him pass cuz he forgot to type a few words is stupid and a bad excuse to try and keep the AF drops in your LS. He didnt lot any other AF did he? Therefor his intention was solely for Rdm, so he deserves it 100%. If you dont want AF2 going outside of the LS, dont host open Dynamis, plain and simple.
#15 Nov 21 2005 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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damn i say **** that! you were there helping kill the damn mobs like everyone else. you have a ******* right to lot on them gloves. if you were in the back standing around doing nothing then **** dont lot. bunch of little ******* playing this game getting to high levels. its sad you would hope the cry babies and idiots would get filtered out in valkurm. oh well you got the AF golves right?? if you did congrats **** them other jealous bastards. these damn people take the game way too seriously. i bet if you handed these same people a condom they would ask you what they were supposed to do with it. i love getting on these threads and just talking random **** cause you know alot of these people will get all offended and emotional its good for a laugh. just look at Viranakka your post got that person all emotion its great. **** it wolfpack its getting all set to do dynamis we have the hourglass and all. putting up our website at www.arcanedominion.com just get ahold of spenta or lacan for updates. enjoy!
#16 Nov 21 2005 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
lol! I'm upset? Thanks for lettin me know Spenta! I was a little irritated that he said it wasn't his fault that no one checked him. He shouldn't have to be babysat. For the record, I'm not upset I didn't get those gloves, lol. I haven't said anything to Nickeny about it during or after the Dynamis, and my apologies if anyone got the impression that I was super pissed about an item. Just wanted to explain my side of the story since I was present during it all. I still say he did the wrong thing, but I'm not mad at anyone, so spenta's response is kinda funny to me.
You could look at as "I went to Dynamis with so'nso LS, I'm here to help, I should be able to get whatever I want!" or you could look at is as "I'm attending Dynamis as a guest for free, I should at least follow their rules."
#17 Nov 21 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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"I'm attending Dynamis as a guest for free, I should at least follow their rules."


well put.
#18 Nov 21 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
Crap loads of people go to public dynamis for flags...and they are perfectly ok with not lotting **** because they have read the rules and understand that, guess what, they are guests, and when you are a guest, you follow their rules or dont go. If a god damn leader tells you to pass it, you better pass it.
#19 Nov 21 2005 at 3:13 PM Rating: Default
I don't understand why all of you people who call yourselves Red Mages, think that the AF2 Gloves are a "not so great" piece. Hands down, they are second only to Duelist's Chapeau in useful AF. Why do i say this? Run down the stats.

17 Def, not bad

Mp+18, one less than Errant, 32 than Zenith, but no minuses to Hp, so meh.

Intelligence +4, one less than Errant, but this is somewhat irrevelant.

Magic Def Bonus+2, Kind of useless, as you should Utsu off any magic solo, or uh, not steal hate in an exp/god setting.

Enhancing Magic +15, same as the pants, but by far the most useful stat on these.

Why? Stoneskin/Phalanx/Enspells/Barspells and any single target or multi target enhancing spell a Rdm casts is DIRECTLY linked to this Magic category. Coupled with the +15 from the pants, and +7 from an Enhancing Torque, one can bring their enhancing magic from 256 Cap at 75, to 293. Combined with a high Mind, one's stoneskin can take far more hits than before.

The only arguement for a better hand for a solo Rdm would be Dusk Gloves, and that only for the haste+ on Utsusemi timers, but personally, i'd much rather have a more reliable stoneskin, phalanx, and stronger Enspells than a second or two off Utsusemi recast.
#20 Nov 21 2005 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
Useful in alliance or party situations is way different from solo.

In my opinion, hat>boots>body>hands>legs
#21 Nov 23 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
yada yada yada. contradicting? no ur just to bland to notice when some one is saying sorry. Dynamis Free? no u try dieing 3 times getting raise1 each time and u see how free it is. >.>

changing subject? no am was trying to be funny, seems like ur humor went down the drain. ahem it seems anyway u guys "The ones that pretty much are online everyday" really dont care for the litte people. when i mean little i mean the ones who dont have a sky Ls, dont make 1mil a day, dont buy gil, and help 20-50's with there rank and stuff. blah blah blah

am not trying to down play wat i did "forgot to put comment" but if i was a member of there Ls or were good friends with the Ls they wouldnt give a hoot. but since i was little 72rdm that ya really didnt know that well ya all went to a little hissy fit. grow up.

to put it like this to everyone who was mad about the gloves am sorry. and to the people with the good gear, the nice shiny sky ls, the visa cards who buy gil for all the gil needs, who thinks wat i did was wrong, i wasnt wrong buddy,i was right. and wth is up with the people, i only loted on RDM AF2, and i wouldnt do that to the people that was there. i went in for rdm af and left with it, and after i loged out smoked a 20 of haze drank a little E&J and was happy. TY FE :D

Rage o.0 wow umm am speach less. hit me up some times i here ya whiping those BCNM. i keep dieing ;_;

"And for the haters, keep my name out your mouth before you get smacked in it!"

RDM74 you know the rest...........

East New York = Murda captial of NY
#22 Nov 23 2005 at 6:45 PM Rating: Default
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I'm sorry but I've watched this thread for a while. I know nothing of dynamis and I won't pretend I know anything, but tell me one thing:

Why do you apologise for the AF2 gloves then proceed to attack the linkshell and people you were apologising too? I'm sorry but that just seems a little silly to me.

Also, I know, speaking for Viranakka anyway and several friends I have, you'll never come across nicer or more helpful people, so can you please keep your tactless generalisations to yourself please?

Sorry but I need to defend my friends now.

"Nickeny" wrote:
grow up.


You say this, but you're the one who felt the need to start this in the first place. Sorry I find that slightly ironic.

Edited, Wed Nov 23 18:45:57 2005 by TeenyTaru
#23 Nov 24 2005 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey, look on the bright side. You won the lot. You can USE said gloves immediately.

Try getting outlotted three times... by three different people.. that can't even fu[i][/i]cking use the gloves yet.
#24 Nov 24 2005 at 1:17 AM Rating: Good
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AuriasVonBismarck wrote:
Enhancing Magic +15, same as the pants, but by far the most useful stat on these.

Why? Stoneskin/Phalanx/Enspells/Barspells and any single target or multi target enhancing spell a Rdm casts is DIRECTLY linked to this Magic category. Coupled with the +15 from the pants, and +7 from an Enhancing Torque, one can bring their enhancing magic from 256 Cap at 75, to 293. Combined with a high Mind, one's stoneskin can take far more hits than before.


Aurias = n00bga.

Stoneskin has a cap of 350 HP. At only 256+22 Enhancing (capped base + AF1 pants + Torque), your stoneskin maxes out with 87 MND. With 256+37 Enhancing, you need 83 MND. But yes, they would be nice for Phalanx. I coded this if you really want to see the numbers yourself: nullvector.com/enhancing.php
If I want the INT or MP, I wear my RSE2. ;p

And to the OP, yes they could've possibly been a little more accommodating. They were totally within their rights to tell you to pass. You were a guest. If you go to a neighbor's house and they ask you not to walk on their couch with muddy boots, ya gonna do it anyways? Because you can be damned sure if you do, they see you to the door and don't let you back in. Same thing here.
#25 Nov 24 2005 at 1:59 AM Rating: Decent
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yada yada yada. contradicting? no ur just to bland to notice when some one is saying sorry. Dynamis Free? no u try dieing 3 times getting raise1 each time and u see how free it is. >.>

changing subject? no am was trying to be funny, seems like ur humor went down the drain. ahem it seems anyway u guys "The ones that pretty much are online everyday" really dont care for the litte people. when i mean little i mean the ones who dont have a sky Ls, dont make 1mil a day, dont buy gil, and help 20-50's with there rank and stuff. blah blah blah

am not trying to down play wat i did "forgot to put comment" but if i was a member of there Ls or were good friends with the Ls they wouldnt give a hoot. but since i was little 72rdm that ya really didnt know that well ya all went to a little hissy fit. grow up.

to put it like this to everyone who was mad about the gloves am sorry. and to the people with the good gear, the nice shiny sky ls, the visa cards who buy gil for all the gil needs, who thinks wat i did was wrong, i wasnt wrong buddy,i was right. and wth is up with the people, i only loted on RDM AF2, and i wouldnt do that to the people that was there. i went in for rdm af and left with it, and after i loged out smoked a 20 of haze drank a little E&J and was happy. TY FE :D

Rage o.0 wow umm am speach less. hit me up some times i here ya whiping those BCNM. i keep dieing ;_;

"And for the haters, keep my name out your mouth before you get smacked in it!"

RDM74 you know the rest...........

East New York = Murda captial of NY


Thank you for re-enforcing the fact that you are a ******* moron.

Good day
#26 Nov 24 2005 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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AlphaJew wrote:
AuriasVonBismarck wrote:
Enhancing Magic +15, same as the pants, but by far the most useful stat on these.

Why? Stoneskin/Phalanx/Enspells/Barspells and any single target or multi target enhancing spell a Rdm casts is DIRECTLY linked to this Magic category. Coupled with the +15 from the pants, and +7 from an Enhancing Torque, one can bring their enhancing magic from 256 Cap at 75, to 293. Combined with a high Mind, one's stoneskin can take far more hits than before.


Aurias = n00bga.

Stoneskin has a cap of 350 HP. At only 256+22 Enhancing (capped base + AF1 pants + Torque), your stoneskin maxes out with 87 MND. With 256+37 Enhancing, you need 83 MND. But yes, they would be nice for Phalanx. I coded this if you really want to see the numbers yourself: nullvector.com/enhancing.php
If I want the INT or MP, I wear my RSE2. ;p


I'm with AlphaJew, though I think his Phalanx formula is wrong. It's (Skill/10)-2. Which means when wearing AF2 gloves, at best Phalanx will soak up an additional 1 pt of damage, at worst 0 pts.
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