Simple solution for gilselling problemFollow

honestly is it really the gilsellers ******* the economy of the game?

looking at the AH i dont know the last time a gilseller camped kracken but the price of the kracken club has been rapidly increasing in price up to 25 million gil!!

ive also never seen one gilseller craft the haubergeon but that has somehow managed to climb its way to 5 mil gil.

you ever notice how everwina gloribel and anitalee used to dominate the ochidus kote? well since the three of them dropped of the face of bismarck the price of ochidus kote has jumped from a steady 2 mil gil to 5+mil gil.

ive also seen player such as haoooooo show up at a guild before it opens then they buy out all stock of 1 item right as it opens and sell at a ridiculously high price on AH.

or how about the high level people that make ten of millions per week deciding they want to level a craft. ive seen this one happen many many times. they dont care about money at this point just about getting to a high craft level. so for some strange reason instead of just selling what the make to the guild or to a store they sell at a very very low price on the AH. they dont care this isnt their way of making money. but for those that use crafting as a way of making their money they are stuck lowering their prices to where they no longer make a profit or their stuff doesnt sell.

im not saying in any way that gilsellers should be allowed to stick around. i hate them and wish SE would take better steps into getting rid of them. but i dont think the gilsellers are the biggest problems facing this game right now. with idiot players ******* over the economy themselves the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting more poor. the poor are finding it harder and harder to advance in the game because they dont have this super awesome gear the rich do. and lets all face it we will all choose the mnk with ochidus kote and jujitsu gi and brown belt over the mnk that cant afford this.

this is probably the wrong way to look at it but i think square probably sees these gilselling comanies as an easy way to bridge that gap between the rich and the poor and thats why they do nothing about it. honestly square needs to implement more ways of making gil in the game before they deal with the gilsellers.

I agree with Phyree, many people in this game have totally forgot what it is like to have fun in this game, which is why (I think) most people bought it. I mean, when you went out and got FFXI, what were you thinking when you bought it, were you thinking "Ooh.. Im gonna have millions and millions of gil and be like the richest person ever!!!!!!!" or did you think "Oh cool this game looks fun! Oooh look I get to fight cool monsters and be a samurai!!! wow!!!!"
(Im hoping your choice is #2)
Now, I'm not saying you should run around naked in all of your parties just to have fun, but if you only have, say, 400k (my current gil), and you are say, level 59 (my current level), and you look on the AH for this really good piece of armor, lets say a Haubergeon, and you see that it is 5 mil.... now... I know that at this point in my gaming experience I am not going to have 5 million gil unless I spend months of my time just getting gil. That, in my view, is NOT fun. I definitely dont want to spend, say, 2 months, just to get enough gil to get one piece of armor, when I could be spending that time leveling, or doing stupid, fun things like getting 20 people to change to a level 1 job and drink a poison potion at the same time in Jeuno. That, to me, is actually fun. You laugh while you are doing it. It makes you smile, etc. Spending a month or 2 of gaming time to get one piece of armor would not make me smile or laugh, and it wouldnt be very fun.

So anyway, back to the original topic...
Gil sellers are nice people, generally, unless you call them names or obnoxiously slap them 100s of times... I mean seriously, WHY do people do that?? That makes me soooo pissed off when my friends or party members are mean like that. That is probably the main reason that some gil sellers have MPKed people. If noone slapped gilsellers, or called them mean names, or refused to tele or D2 them, they would be much nicer to us. What really made me mad a few days ago, I was in Jeuno and apparently a gillseller was /shouting for a tele. A few Aholes decided to call them names. After a while, someone teleported the person, and suddenly, someone said "SOMEONE TELEPORTED THAT GILSELLER!!! LETS KILL HIM!!!" Then, when the guy came back, someone found out who it was (Ill just call him "Bob")
So Bob came back, and someone /shouted "Hey!!!! Bob did it!!!!! WTF Bob?????!!! HE WAS A GILLSELLER!!!!"
Bob: "Yeah well he was gonna get teleported anyway eventually..."
The other guy: "Yeah well guess what? I hate anyone who teleports gilsellers!! /welcome to my /BLIST!!!!"
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I mean seriously people... how mean and nasty can we get here?

/wave Sirro

Your RL analogy sucks, man. Point's good, but analogy blows <_<

Don't get rid of the AH's but start limiting the items put on them.

Say for instance from now on Weapons and Armor are no longer sold on AH but you have to sell them to the prespective NPC dealers.

So by doing this you are selling weapons to weaponshops and armor to armorshops. When this is done the NPC shops update the list of equipment they have and sell for the price SE deems is a reasonable price.

Therefore the Equipment shops aren't there just for looks because I can't tell you the last time I have used these shops and I've been playing for almost 2 yrs now and have used them enough times to count on 1 hand. Also by doing this AH prices go down and this will slowly eliminate the need for gilsellers.

Because as long as inflation is extremly high gilsellers will be around. Making a timer on a NM wont fix the problem. Gilsellers are everywhere, they craft, they mine, they harvest, they do everything the average player does but way more enough to monopolize and earn gil in large amounts. NMs are just a fraction.

So there is my idea and my 2 cents...

yes please.

you know what im drunk? and you want to know what else?? shut the **** up sirrobin! gilsellers no longer own ochidus kote... havent you noticed they all left and after they did the price rose 3 mil gil up to almost 5 mil gil each. i want to slap you i hate you youre an idiot. i want you all to rate me down cause i dont give a **** anymore. people have ****** up the economy on the game not the gilsellers. i noticed that gilsellers kept a constant price on items. it may have been high but it was constant and no where near as high as what it is now.

Just remember that we here in Final Fantasyland aren't the only ones having to deal with currency campers. Follow the link for a funny look at our WoW brothers'/sisters' plight: http://goldfarmer.ytmnd.com/

Heehee. ^^b

Actually, I have "experienced" gillsellers before. One time, I was in a party in the Crawlers Nest, and A party of mainly gill-sellers was close by. After a while, the gillseller party got into a bit of trouble. They had been nice to us while we were there, so I decided to help them, much to the dismay of many of my party members. The blm and the whm helped out too, and after a short time, the mob was killed. They /bowed to us and thanked us profusely, and we turned back to exping. Later on, our party ran into some trouble. Sure enough, the other party helped us out.
The point I am trying to make is that if you treat the gillsellers well, they won't MPK you.
Also, think about this: If there weren't any gillbuyers, there wouldnt be any gillsellers. So, gillsellers are NOT the main reason prices are rising so much. But of course, instead of admitting it is our fault, we blame the gillsellers, and we dont even stop and think about the actual reason gillsellers are even here in the first place.

well sirrobin if thats your definition of gilsellers then no there are no gilsellers camping ochidus kote. ive camped it many times and never once did anyone attempt to MPK me. honestly i dont think you know what the **** youre talking about. you sound like one of them people that needs to go out and get some sun. ok so according to you gilsellers mpk you if you attempt to get a claim. so i guess in my almost two years of playing this game the only gilseller ive come across was some level 20 thf that got pissed when i claimed jej. sirrobin youre just making **** up to try and sound smart. the people that mpked you when you were claiming them "HNMs" were probably just normal competition that didnt like you. hell i cant blame them i dont like you either whether im drunk or sober. you come off as an ignorant jack ***

Someone sounds jealous. Reality is most gil buyers are people with real lifes that don't have the time to farm for gill. The anti gill buyers are the people without jobs that can't afford to and are jealous, why else would you care what someone chooses to do with there money.

Most people in 40s are fat.

People that worry about what others do = bad
Peope that mind there own business = good
Jealous people suck and should improve there lifes over ******* so much.

I only said they MPK me over HNMs, because its damn hard to MPK someone at Mee Deggi when they are 70+. Gil sellers also **** me off because they monopolize things. You can't go camp O kote and NOT see at least 2-5 gil sellers there.

You guys should have seen sky when the gil sellers were up there consistantly...Zipacna was the hardest to get because everytime you would claim him, HERE COMES AN AURA STATUE TRAIN. Anyone that has been in sky farming with these guys know of ole TOMATO and their business. Go watch Serket sometime as well. Gil sellers don't claim, and it turns into WWIII.

Did someone say that I am jealous people have no lives and so they poor hundreds of $$ into FAKE money in a VIDEO GAME? I have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better things to do with my money than to throw it endlessly at something I will not be doing in a few years. I hate gil buyers because they create gil sellers, end of story

Srrobin is absolutely correct. I'be been with him on several occasions where (as a whm) i've been MPK'd because i've been after the real good items. The thing is, being a oh 60ish sam as your main i cant see you having had real {Sky} or HNM mobs. O-kote is not an HNM... i think you fail to grasp that HNM consists of things you cant camp w/ 1 or 2 ppl. O-kote may be 5 mil, but its peanuts in comparison to things you can do say, in sky. Shining Cloth, do you need it?, Kirin's Osode, how bout kraken club. or for that matter Dynamis currency. get off your high horse thinking that the Sellers are only after the okote.

And another thing, yeah i disagree w/ all 40 year olds being fat, just the american ones. since 75% of your population is now overweight, and 50% of that is obese... so yes hes right.
Another thing, OMFG if you think that chinese are all living in poverty get your head out of your ethnocentric rears and think outside the propoganda. Yeah there are a lot that are poor, but by no means are they sequestered to sweatshops making your Nike sneakers...

So stop and think before you start bashing somone because they speak truths above your understanding.


Edit : Hehehe that reads even funnier when your high.


Edited, Sun Nov 20 03:28:02 2005 by OverdriveBismark

Just in case those of you that still care didn't see it before.