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Every time someone mentions gilsellers, people never fail to jump in and defend them... "Just because someone is there a lot doesn't mean they're a gilseller" they'll say, as if this is somehow relevant. "Just because Iceangel is never seen not camping the morion worm doesn't mean she's a gilseller!" {Um...} {What?}

People seem to think that because you can never prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that someone sells gil that this means... what? That there are no gilsellers? That very well known gilsellers are just enthusiastic players who barely speak english and have been inappropriately labeled?

Obviously, there ARE gilsellers. Quite a few of them, in fact. Otherwise, where would the millions upon millions of gil that IGN sells come from, hm? But what I'd really like to know is why so many people seem to rush to defend these game-ruining NM hoggers. Some may be sore over being called gilsellers themselves; being good at NM camping and camping an NM a lot will always make a noob think you're a gilseller, but there's gotta be more to it than that... Could it be that gilsellers have penetrated the alla forums? It often seems like the biggest advocates have very poor english skills after all ^.^ Just an idle wondering of mine, please add your thoughts and speculation. Leave all trolls and flames inside your pants, kids.

Actually for the most part a lot of the people labled gil sellers are appropriately labled... It is kind of easy to spot who is and who isn't, go look at Kuftal Tunnel near the amemet spawn, 9/10 of them are gil sellers, the rest are just people trying to exp lol.

Acutally it's IGE ^o^v. Just had to point out the minor mistake. Everything else you wrote isn't worth reading. :P

you cant prove it dont use it. obviously there are gil sellers and some of them are quite obvious. like the ones who NEVER log out and are online at all times of the day. but if some one camps everyday that doesnt mean they are a gil seller.
Lets say i start camping the Nm for valkire mask (yeah I spelt it wrong.) everyday because I can make some good gil for it. Does that make me a gil seller? Nope. as someone said earlier some accusations should be taken with a grain of salt.

Wow yet another blame someone else for our economy type thread

Ok check this out, it's very simple. There are RMTs on every server of every game in the entire universe. That’s right if Aliens have MMO's there are RMTs there as well.

How do we stop this, you may ask? That too is very simple but since nuking china is against too many laws we'll have to do things the hard way. I can tell you one thing that will not stop them another pointless so and so is an RMT whine, whine, cry, cry post on a forum that is not even sponsored by the company who makes the game this is a FAN website made by and for fans. So please give it a rest. The majority of us can tell who the RMTs are who isn't.

One way to stop RMTs is to call/write/picket/protest SE NA HQ (for the rest of you that is SquarEnix North American Headquarters). Another way and this really should be the easiest and most obvious way to thwart the evil of the RMT Demons is to STOP BUYING their grossly inflated merchandise. I mean c'mon when something jumps in price (take the O-Kote) over 1 million gil in less than a day... Who the hell do you think is selling them? The RMTs, and the saddest part is, who do you think is still buying them? US!! The hell is the matter with us? Why do we do this to ourselves? If we don't buy they get no big time easy gil.

I mean you want someone to blame for the economy? Then get up out of that computer chair go straight to the bathroom (second door on the left) and look in the mirror. If you have ever gone to the AH looked up a price and went "WTF!?!?! It's jumped in price 300%!!!" and then rather than not buy it, went out and farmed until you could afford the new grossly inflated price, then you and all the people like you are responsible for our economy. You do realize if you don't buy it, it goes back to them and they then have to sell it at a lower price, or at least re-think their price. I mean if you walked into the only store in town to buy a $15.00 CD and when you got there it was $300.00 would you still buy it? Hell no you'd spit in the face of the owner and walk out, leaving him to decide if he wants to make exuberant profit or just profit.

I am just so sick of people whining about this it's actually quite funny now. If you want to flex your whine muscle why not be productive and bombard SE with a few letters describing the situation and you daily encounters with RMTs you could even make a journal and give some snappy snazzy little name like "Adventures in Gil Selling" Or "My friend Jerry" whatever you decide to do please stop posting here and crying about these people. I can only speak for myself, and I say "I don't give a rats ***"

well actually SE can figure out who the gilsellers are it wouldnt be too hard. all they have to do is go to one of the gil selling websites buy 100k gil for $5 and whoever delivers that is a gilseller. on top of that ive heard of SE keeping track of money and item transfer so from that they could find the complete list of gilsellers from that company on that server. i dont know if anything im typing makes sense im tired and right now it makes sense to me. but either way only reasons why gilseller are still around is they cut a deal with SE and pay SE royalties or square doesnt want to cough up $5 to figure out who they are.

Did you actually think about this before saying it? They need PROOF before then can ban anyone and what's to stop them from getting a new account to sell gil on? There's no way you'll stop them. SE cannot ban the accounts that farm the gil.

Well looks like all thats left is Nuking China, and while i realize that not all gilsellers are Chinese (some are even american) I think it's a good start. Time to contact congress...


I am of course just kidding. There really is no simple solution to getting rid of RMTs as I said they are in every server of every game in the entire universe.

Another way to stop people from selling is to stop people from buying it. Half the people I have known that have bought gil in FFXI all bought it because they were denied too many PT's because they could not afford said millions of gil for said item.

So if you want to help stop things next time you invite a player and when he/she gets there and he/she is not in the "Greatest" possible gear for his/her lvl that he/she can possibly be. Don't just kick him/her out of the PT ask him/her why he/she is in sub par gear and if he/she says he/she can't affored it don't kick him/her but if he/she is just too damn lazy to get it then kick him/her.

Another reason people seem to buy gil is because lets face it. Not all of us have the amount of time neccisary to farm the gil required for some of these things.

So here are two actual solutions that involve the players of Bismarck and FFXI in general to stop being lazy.

Suggestion #1 Bombard SE with petitions and letters to raise the amount of gil dropped by mobs so farming takes less time.

Suggestion #2 Bombard SE with petitions and letters asking them to make every NM or major important drop Rare/Ex

Effective solutions for a world plagued by the unholy legions of the RMT horde.

Remember kids right or wrong that's just my opinion.

EDIT: See 90% of all my other posts.

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Edited, Sun Sep 25 18:51:36 2005 by XxMortimerxX

lol ummm...privacy [Do You Need It?] SE can't just look at people credt card transactions without permission.

READ what I said. What is to stop them from using a seperate account to sell all the gil? This leaves their main account that they farm gil with safe. IQ +100 {You can have this}

Actually there is nothing against purchasing Gil in the ToS and the only reason it is even illeagal to sale it is because it is SE's Exclusive Intelectual Property.

Sell their Exclusive Intelectual Property is against the ToS buying their Exclusive Intelectual Property however is not

Chinese gilsellers will have a hard time operating from China in the near future, due to the gameplay restrictors all MMOs must have there. (ie, after 3 hours consecutive play, FF XI will force a disconnect for another 3 hours)

And you actually think SE wouldn't have any kind of log of which account owned a character with that name ?

Well, now that I think about it, even though it would be logical, SE appears to be anything but logical, so who knows.