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Dude, that maintence was performed last Sunday.

Servers are up and will be up tonight. That was just a news flash trying to scare people that use 3rd pt programs.


...you scared me! I thought I wasn't going to get to play tonight!

Is a windower forbidden ? I was planning to get one to be able to receive MSN messages while playing ffxi but now you scared me :p

maybe Ill wait a couple of time b4 trying it...

ok but does ppl that used windowers got banned ?

People who are found using a Windower (usually by a player telling a GM you said you were using one), will have problems. And these problems will vary, based on which GM you deal with ... Usually, it's a 3-4 days suspension of the account, but GMs have the right to terminate your account if you're using any TParty software, Windower included.

I read a chat log showing someone dealing with a GM because he was found using a windower, and from what the GM said, I think they're taking severe actions against the windower because of its features, not only because it allows the game to be runned windowed. Just one example : Without the windower, you don't see the Party Members' TPs. The game was made in that way, and people who don't have the windower don't see PM's TPs. And so it makes the game easier for some people. And making the game easier with a 3rd party program is basically "cheating". I believe if the windower was only a simple program which allowed the game to be runned windowed, without adding features, they wouldn't take such actions against it, although they'd still do (windowed programs make hacking easier).

As Wintaru said, don't tell anyone you're using one if you don't want any problems. If you're caught using a windower for whatever reason, do not argue with the GM and be patient with him/her (I saw too many people making pointless arguments with GMs, increasing their amount of days of suspension ...). And be aware that your account will be marked as "3rd-party program user" or whatever, so if you're caught again, you'll be in a bad situation.

The first rule of using windower: Don't talk about windower.
The second rule of using windower: Don't talk about windower.

Plain and simple, The only way they can tell if you are using it, is if you talk about it in game since they can view chat logs. That is the ONLY way for them to tell since windower does not send a signal out from your computer. If they tell you they found out by using a GM tool or something like that, they are *********** you. It would be illegal for them to do that.

In our LS, we refer to windower as "Voldower," or "The program that must not be named."

Oh they can, they just wouldn't dare, because it's illegal.

About simply being windowed, that's a problem, because SE decided it'd be a good idea to put all the data client-side. While the program is windowed, you have access to the data files and with the right know-how and tools, you can alter the game while playing it. If they could engineer their own windower that would "lock" that folder while playing then they could release that to the general public. But considering we're still using an antiquated version update method, don't hold your breaths.

The best advice for not getting caught has already been mentioned: say nothing. For those of you here who have already said you use one, I highly suggest you remove that confession.

Mum's the word.

That was, by far, the most annoying post I've ever read.

I looked into using a (the) windower programme, but I just don't trust software downloaded from the web unless I know where it is coming from.

My soloution was to network an old machine and put in a KVM switch. Now I have my games computer running FF and a less grunty machine to brouse the web etc using the one keyboard, monitor and mouse. Nice and tidy and no rules broken.

With a couple of key presses I can flick over to check out a map, er.... I mean instant messenger...., and then come back to the game without droping out of fullscreen.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know it was annoying I was in a bad mood and tired when I wrote it.

Give a hommie a break I mean damn you people went out of your way to rate me down.

This was just a silly topic to me.

Again I apologise for being annoying and all.

Wint! your so mean! your going straight to hell. ^^ humor is for the faithless.

Mort! dont change the way you write your posts. I enjoy it. If everyones communicated everything in the same style and fashion..then reading just wouldnt be worth it.

BURN THE CHEATERS!!!

(sorry no caffiene for gob yet..ill go get some now)

and this is why I can't trust to SE's ideas.

it's just frigging ridiculous.

Well no voltage spikes and it's holding steady at 11.625 on the 12v rail under load, so I'm stumped. Not sure where to go from here >.<