WoW has a very nice end game so those of you who say it doesn't may want to try it out. WoW is certainly easier in a lot of ways but when you get to the endgame stuff it stops becoming so "easy". WoW is also not NA only. It has been released in Europe and just recently asia.
For those of us who couldn't "cut it" most of us had jobs to go to the next morning so we couldn't spend 8 hours searching for a party and leveling for a couple of hours at a time. In WoW you can get most things done in under 4 and if you are just available for an hour or so there is plenty to do that is productive.
Someone said WoW is for newbies and FFXI is for experienced players is dead wrong. I've played many MMOs over the years and I enjoy WoW. I know a bunch of the IRON Linkshell plays WoW now too, and I think they do not fall into the category of "couldn't cut it".
As someone above pointed out, there is no "Black sheep" class in WoW like there is in FFXI. I got tired of there only being 6 classes in a game with many classes.
Edited, Thu Sep 15 14:28:59 2005 by Hulm
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FFXI isn't for experienced players. it takes ALOT less skill and timing than WoW.
-Press Refresh macro on me.
-Cast paralyze..
-Cast slow..
-Dispell if needed (Rarely)
-Press refresh macro on white mage
-cast haste on ninja
-sleep til magic burst...
-rinse..
-repeat...
yes. FFXI takes a ton of skill.
actually, FFXI at times is just flat out tedius, there is no skill involved, at least not the level of skill WoW takes. But it's still fun =p
I think thats my main attraction to WoW. PvE in WoW is brainless of course, PvE in any game is rather brainless (major raids exclused, even FFXI's major raids take skill.)
Difference is on WoW, you are subjected to PvP even when you're PvEing, and i realize alot of people don't like this.. But nothing pushes the limits of your skill like playing head to head with another human being. Some people are stupid, doesn't take much to win.. but alot aren't. In fact, alot of people that I've run into are average or great.. I'm currently ranked #3 on my server (out of a few thousand people) for PvP, so i consider myself better than average.. Still though, when I'm soloing an even level monster and a warlock tries to jump me, I now have two targets I have to kill, often times I can't do it, but it really pushes the limits of my skill at that game, and thats what it's main hook on me is.
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after reading my own post I think I understand.. Not everyone likes the idea that they will die pvping (you don't lose anything when you die in pvp btw. not a thing at all except maybe a little pride =P). It gets annoying at times, and I do see how it would wear on a persons nerves. I use to hate pvp too. When i first came to WoW i use to run from people when they jumped me Lol. But gradually, little by little, i got into PvPing more and more. now when someone jumps me when I solo, it's the most exciting feeling ever, and its so fun. Since all classes are balanaced there is no "OMG SUPER POWER" to avoid, but each fight with each class is handled very differently. It's fun for me. It may be fun for you, but if it's not, I can totally understand. Sometimes other players are downright ruthless.... Like me ^_^ The #1 and #2 pvpers on my server are a husband and Wife, no one likes them because they are cheap and it's annoying. I'm barely #3 over #4... But I actually have a pretty good reputation. I kill people all the time but i don't kill people too low level (unless they attack me first.....) I think some of you should really give WoW a try. Come to my server, i'll be your guardian angel until you get your feet firmly on the ground ^_^
Edited, Thu Sep 15 14:28:42 2005 by Keris
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-Press Refresh macro on me.
-Cast paralyze..
-Cast slow..
-Dispell if needed (Rarely)
-Press refresh macro on white mage
-cast haste on ninja
-sleep til magic burst...
-rinse..
-repeat...
yes. FFXI takes a ton of skill.
actually, FFXI at times is just flat out tedius, there is no skill involved, at least not the level of skill WoW takes. But it's still fun =p
I think thats my main attraction to WoW. PvE in WoW is brainless of course, PvE in any game is rather brainless (major raids exclused, even FFXI's major raids take skill.)
Difference is on WoW, you are subjected to PvP even when you're PvEing, and i realize alot of people don't like this.. But nothing pushes the limits of your skill like playing head to head with another human being. Some people are stupid, doesn't take much to win.. but alot aren't. In fact, alot of people that I've run into are average or great.. I'm currently ranked #3 on my server (out of a few thousand people) for PvP, so i consider myself better than average.. Still though, when I'm soloing an even level monster and a warlock tries to jump me, I now have two targets I have to kill, often times I can't do it, but it really pushes the limits of my skill at that game, and thats what it's main hook on me is.
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after reading my own post I think I understand.. Not everyone likes the idea that they will die pvping (you don't lose anything when you die in pvp btw. not a thing at all except maybe a little pride =P). It gets annoying at times, and I do see how it would wear on a persons nerves. I use to hate pvp too. When i first came to WoW i use to run from people when they jumped me Lol. But gradually, little by little, i got into PvPing more and more. now when someone jumps me when I solo, it's the most exciting feeling ever, and its so fun. Since all classes are balanaced there is no "OMG SUPER POWER" to avoid, but each fight with each class is handled very differently. It's fun for me. It may be fun for you, but if it's not, I can totally understand. Sometimes other players are downright ruthless.... Like me ^_^ The #1 and #2 pvpers on my server are a husband and Wife, no one likes them because they are cheap and it's annoying. I'm barely #3 over #4... But I actually have a pretty good reputation. I kill people all the time but i don't kill people too low level (unless they attack me first.....) I think some of you should really give WoW a try. Come to my server, i'll be your guardian angel until you get your feet firmly on the ground ^_^
Edited, Thu Sep 15 14:28:42 2005 by Keris
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when WoW reaches its 4yr mark.. its economy will be in the same shape as FFO's.
death and taxes and a jacked up economy. with gil-selling companies out there.. it's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.
just think about all other "aged" MMORPG economies.
death and taxes and a jacked up economy. with gil-selling companies out there.. it's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.
just think about all other "aged" MMORPG economies.
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Difference between WoW and FFXI.
WoW actually ban's gilsellers... You'd think that they are replaced as fast as they are ban, and there ARE still plenty out there. But at least on WoW they actually ban them.. FFXI would have teams of 20 toons that are obviously gil sellers and it took them what, months to ban the Jerry's? Not to mention, WoW's character advancement isn't as dependant on the econ as FFXi's is. the biggest upgraades out there are buyable. It's insanely hard to get many upgrades HNM hunting (Without months devotion!). all of WoW's good items aren't sellable. and after you buy the epic mount (horse that runs hella fast) there is no more need formuch money. atm WoW's economy is nice, but even if it went to hell, unlike FFXI, WoW's ecomoy isn't THAT central to character advancement. Needless to say, soon as I get my ninja on FFXi to mid 50's i'm selling the serket ring i bought for 500k so i can buy a scorpion harness ^___^
WoW actually ban's gilsellers... You'd think that they are replaced as fast as they are ban, and there ARE still plenty out there. But at least on WoW they actually ban them.. FFXI would have teams of 20 toons that are obviously gil sellers and it took them what, months to ban the Jerry's? Not to mention, WoW's character advancement isn't as dependant on the econ as FFXi's is. the biggest upgraades out there are buyable. It's insanely hard to get many upgrades HNM hunting (Without months devotion!). all of WoW's good items aren't sellable. and after you buy the epic mount (horse that runs hella fast) there is no more need formuch money. atm WoW's economy is nice, but even if it went to hell, unlike FFXI, WoW's ecomoy isn't THAT central to character advancement. Needless to say, soon as I get my ninja on FFXi to mid 50's i'm selling the serket ring i bought for 500k so i can buy a scorpion harness ^___^
I said to myself I wouldn't reply in this topic again, but after having read the few last posts ...
I'm not going into the FFXI > WoW // WoW > FFXI discussion again. I already said my opinion. What annoys me like hell, is the type of person which makes me hate WoW's community. It's the type of person which will ALWAYS answer to what you say, which will ALWAYS want to show he's the best/he's right/you're dumb/you're an ignorant/he has the absolute knowledge, whatever you're talking about. Such people usually discredidate themselves by using arguments in wrongs ways, or "forgetting" some things, for example answering to someone and only countering a few chosen arguments and "forgetting" some, or saying things only to show something which makes his arguments looking better but hiding some part of the truth which would make the whole thing looking worse (Ex: Someone who'd say FFXI is great because you can sell your items for a very high price, thus omitting to speak about all the farming you have to do to get other items), and so on. And the worst part is that either he's right or not, he will believe he is, and will try to prove that the ones who disagree with him are ignorant/idiots/kids/newbies/...
And this is the main reason why I prefer FFXI : In WoW, 7/10 people you encounter think in that way ... (And for me, it's even worse, because I play on a French server <.<; ...).
Oh, and by the way, this will actually be my last reply (I hope <.<), because I do not want to be bound in another pointless fight which will end in nothing good. I've had enough of this. And don't forget to rate me down.
Edited, Thu Sep 15 16:33:12 2005 by Freyir
I'm not going into the FFXI > WoW // WoW > FFXI discussion again. I already said my opinion. What annoys me like hell, is the type of person which makes me hate WoW's community. It's the type of person which will ALWAYS answer to what you say, which will ALWAYS want to show he's the best/he's right/you're dumb/you're an ignorant/he has the absolute knowledge, whatever you're talking about. Such people usually discredidate themselves by using arguments in wrongs ways, or "forgetting" some things, for example answering to someone and only countering a few chosen arguments and "forgetting" some, or saying things only to show something which makes his arguments looking better but hiding some part of the truth which would make the whole thing looking worse (Ex: Someone who'd say FFXI is great because you can sell your items for a very high price, thus omitting to speak about all the farming you have to do to get other items), and so on. And the worst part is that either he's right or not, he will believe he is, and will try to prove that the ones who disagree with him are ignorant/idiots/kids/newbies/...
And this is the main reason why I prefer FFXI : In WoW, 7/10 people you encounter think in that way ... (And for me, it's even worse, because I play on a French server <.<; ...).
Oh, and by the way, this will actually be my last reply (I hope <.<), because I do not want to be bound in another pointless fight which will end in nothing good. I've had enough of this. And don't forget to rate me down.
Edited, Thu Sep 15 16:33:12 2005 by Freyir
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stereotyping a people based on which video game they play is clearly maturity. Since you seem to think that due to your playing FFXI you're a greater being!
Hey freyir come join the english server I chill on, you'll actually meet decent people ;p. On another note, i love both games, they both have their perks and their faults. But it's really a matter of taste. And FFXI does take a far greater time commitment.
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And pertaining to THIS specific topic, didn't bismarcks population litterally cut in HALF after 2 years when WoW was released? Oh my. Sorry that the facts hurt your arguement =(
But alot of them came back, either before or during the "adventurer appreciation" event.
I already stated my opinion on this, both games are good, both games are fun, both games take skill.
Both games are different, can we all agree on that?
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Its all Product Marketing. As consumers I think you guys would understand this by now. When 11 came out it stole buisness from Blizzard. Now Blizzard needs to get thier customers back. They did thier market research and tried to make a game that would offer everything FFXI players didnt like. So compairing these titles is pointless. It "coke" vs "pepsi".
WoW probally did research just on what fans disliked about 11, yet still based the game true to thier fans. They made a system just like Diablo where items come in 3 or 4 differnt "Rareness" (Based on color and lvl of mob). That way Diablo fans would buy the game. Its based in a Warcraft world where Alliance and Horde can do mass PvP, so Warcraft fans will buy the game. Then it offers most of the things FF11 doesnt. So they could get 11 fans to buy thier game, and fans that where getting sick of FF11 and what it lacked would play thier game instead. They played the market to appeal to the biggest audiance they could get. They needed Diablo fans, Warcraft fans, and they had to enter a market with FF11.
So in entering that market they wanted to try to convert fans. By offering faster leveling, better PvP, faster crafting, solo-gaming, easier to make money, less need for money, and a mount you could call on anywhere, instead of having to be in a town or near a tele-crag. They played the market great and made a product that stole buisness from it competitors. They did exactly what they wanted to do. They pleased the mob and now the mob finds the need to make topics like this. Blizzard had two years to make a game and offer things FF11 lacked. Now the ball is in Square-enix's court. What will thier next MMORPG offer. What will the topics be then. "New MMORPG" vs "Old MMORPG". What a clever topic.
One more perfect example. High end FFXI you have to camp HNM and Gods, and you have to get the claim over other gamers. Thats sucks and could take hours. WoW you enter a instance where only you and your party can go. You are FOR SURE going to get to fight to your mob if you make it to it, and you will FOR SURE get a chance at the drop. Do you think they just came up with this idea cause they dont care about taking away buisness and appealing to High end gamers of FF11??? It just so happened to be a fix to one of the biggest high end problems with FF11, just out of pure luck??? Both games are made by companies who are out to make money. They want all the buisness they can get. The target consumer is anyone who hates something about one type of game, but still likes MMORPGs. Its called Buisness. And all of us are just big wallets willing to pay monthly fees.
WoW probally did research just on what fans disliked about 11, yet still based the game true to thier fans. They made a system just like Diablo where items come in 3 or 4 differnt "Rareness" (Based on color and lvl of mob). That way Diablo fans would buy the game. Its based in a Warcraft world where Alliance and Horde can do mass PvP, so Warcraft fans will buy the game. Then it offers most of the things FF11 doesnt. So they could get 11 fans to buy thier game, and fans that where getting sick of FF11 and what it lacked would play thier game instead. They played the market to appeal to the biggest audiance they could get. They needed Diablo fans, Warcraft fans, and they had to enter a market with FF11.
So in entering that market they wanted to try to convert fans. By offering faster leveling, better PvP, faster crafting, solo-gaming, easier to make money, less need for money, and a mount you could call on anywhere, instead of having to be in a town or near a tele-crag. They played the market great and made a product that stole buisness from it competitors. They did exactly what they wanted to do. They pleased the mob and now the mob finds the need to make topics like this. Blizzard had two years to make a game and offer things FF11 lacked. Now the ball is in Square-enix's court. What will thier next MMORPG offer. What will the topics be then. "New MMORPG" vs "Old MMORPG". What a clever topic.
One more perfect example. High end FFXI you have to camp HNM and Gods, and you have to get the claim over other gamers. Thats sucks and could take hours. WoW you enter a instance where only you and your party can go. You are FOR SURE going to get to fight to your mob if you make it to it, and you will FOR SURE get a chance at the drop. Do you think they just came up with this idea cause they dont care about taking away buisness and appealing to High end gamers of FF11??? It just so happened to be a fix to one of the biggest high end problems with FF11, just out of pure luck??? Both games are made by companies who are out to make money. They want all the buisness they can get. The target consumer is anyone who hates something about one type of game, but still likes MMORPGs. Its called Buisness. And all of us are just big wallets willing to pay monthly fees.
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Everquest was the reigning MMORPG when FFXI came out, and guess what? Even after FFXI came out, everquest had more subscribers. To this day, more people play Everquest than FFXI. What you said is true, before they released WoW they collected information from gamers from all MMORPG's and tried to make WoW friendly to all gamers. hardcore, casual, pvp freaks, PvE freaks, WoW was deisgned and tailored to try to make the game enjoyable for all types, FFXI is not. FFXI never was a big of a game as everquest was or WoW currently IS, thats because it only caters to a portion of the gaming audience. There are people on WoW that have never touched on MMORPG before and loving it to death.
BTW on WoW there ARE many raid bosses that are like HNM claims, for the people who like to raid, and they drop very, very good items. But they put the bulk of raiding in instances. HNM claiming promotes something sinister... whoever gets more claims, gets more items, that linkshell thrives. So what happens to the others? They die. That means there are only 2 or 3 strong LS's per server, the ones that get more claims, more items to handle the bigger things, more progression. Small LS's that have the manpower, but can't do HNM camps for hours sufficate in this game. But not in WoW, hence the instanced raiding.
I agree that both games are good, I personally like FFXI a ton, it just ticks me off when people imply WoW is a bad game just because they never tried it/sucked at it. it's an awesome game, both are, WoW just appeals to more than my PvE sense. I could fraps a video of me PvPing or PvEing in WoW and have a recording of my fingers so you can see how much more involved the gameplay is/how much more difficult, then cross it with me doing the same in FFXI. But I think that point has been put across well already. Problem with WoW though is its to intense sometimes. FFXI is laid back, slow and relaxing. So it's nice to play both, depending on how I feel i'll play 1 or the other. And no, WoW isn't button mashing like I know some idiot is going to say, it's just very fast paced. I think you should try it before you knock it, not saying it should replace FFXI for you, but you should definately try it.
And don't play an easy mode class like paladin. Play something skill intense like Warrior, Warlock, priest, mage, or even rogue (though thats kind of easy mode too @ rogue).
again though, I'm a pvp freak. On WoW (looking at it right now) I've killed exactly 36,879 other players in the past 3ish months. PvE on FFXI AND WOW is pretty.. dull. i mean an AI can only do so much, and save a few raid level encounters its pretty tedius. PvP though puts you against other humans, every person is different, thinks different, plays different, so its a whole different hunt. There is no AI that can come close to matching the challenge of killing other humans.
Edited, Fri Sep 16 11:43:11 2005 by Keris
Edited, Fri Sep 16 11:47:28 2005 by Keris
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BTW on WoW there ARE many raid bosses that are like HNM claims, for the people who like to raid, and they drop very, very good items. But they put the bulk of raiding in instances. HNM claiming promotes something sinister... whoever gets more claims, gets more items, that linkshell thrives. So what happens to the others? They die. That means there are only 2 or 3 strong LS's per server, the ones that get more claims, more items to handle the bigger things, more progression. Small LS's that have the manpower, but can't do HNM camps for hours sufficate in this game. But not in WoW, hence the instanced raiding.
I agree that both games are good, I personally like FFXI a ton, it just ticks me off when people imply WoW is a bad game just because they never tried it/sucked at it. it's an awesome game, both are, WoW just appeals to more than my PvE sense. I could fraps a video of me PvPing or PvEing in WoW and have a recording of my fingers so you can see how much more involved the gameplay is/how much more difficult, then cross it with me doing the same in FFXI. But I think that point has been put across well already. Problem with WoW though is its to intense sometimes. FFXI is laid back, slow and relaxing. So it's nice to play both, depending on how I feel i'll play 1 or the other. And no, WoW isn't button mashing like I know some idiot is going to say, it's just very fast paced. I think you should try it before you knock it, not saying it should replace FFXI for you, but you should definately try it.
And don't play an easy mode class like paladin. Play something skill intense like Warrior, Warlock, priest, mage, or even rogue (though thats kind of easy mode too @ rogue).
again though, I'm a pvp freak. On WoW (looking at it right now) I've killed exactly 36,879 other players in the past 3ish months. PvE on FFXI AND WOW is pretty.. dull. i mean an AI can only do so much, and save a few raid level encounters its pretty tedius. PvP though puts you against other humans, every person is different, thinks different, plays different, so its a whole different hunt. There is no AI that can come close to matching the challenge of killing other humans.
Edited, Fri Sep 16 11:43:11 2005 by Keris
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Oh. and Coke owns pepsi.
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stereotyping a people based on which video game they play is clearly maturity. Since you seem to think that due to your playing FFXI you're a greater being!
Tell me when I said that EVERYONE on WoW is stupid, and tell me when I said that EVERYONE on FFXI is very nice. Tell me when I said that I considered myself as a "greater being".
Thank you for discrediting yourself once again, and thank you for proving what I said right.
@TeenyTaru : I'll sure do ;p Playing another game with someone who is in my LS in FFXI will surely be a great experience :). But I want my new comp first <.<;.
(Who said I said I wouldn't answer here again ? Hmm ... {Please forgive me.})
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What annoys me like hell, is the type of person which makes me hate WoW's community.
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And this is the main reason why I prefer FFXI : In WoW, 7/10 people you encounter think in that way
You should stop talking now. My mistake, you only stereotyped 70% of the people playing WoW, simply because they play a differnet video game! Your wisdom knows no bounds!
Edited, Fri Sep 16 15:22:15 2005 by Keris
Thank you for giving us another example : Tell me when I said that I don't like 7/10 people on WoW because they play a different game (which is absurd, because I play WoW too...).
And by saying 7 people on 10, I gave a taste of my vision of the WoW's community. Did you really think that I spoke with 100 different people on WoW, wrote down which ones I didn't like, and made a perfect result of 70% ? Meh. I just couldn't say "the majority" because it would be greater, nor "the minority" because it would be lesser, so I gave a 70%. And from what I know, 70% is different than 100%.
And also, as I said, I'm playing on a French server, so things are worse. But I asked people from other zones, and they pretty much say the same thing, so meh ... But I'm not going into that debate again, as I said. I said my opinion, so I don't need to say it once again.
I like this quote very much, that's maybe why I always say it in such debates :
"You can say what you want, think what you want, and do what you want on a forum, as long as you don't break any rules. But there's one thing you can't change : The other people's opinions. They make opinion off you. And you'll have to deal with it."
... There's one thing I'd like to add to this. You're losing your nerves and insulting me, after what I said. Did I say something offensive, or does it mean "something else" ? (This is not a question.) ...
And by saying 7 people on 10, I gave a taste of my vision of the WoW's community. Did you really think that I spoke with 100 different people on WoW, wrote down which ones I didn't like, and made a perfect result of 70% ? Meh. I just couldn't say "the majority" because it would be greater, nor "the minority" because it would be lesser, so I gave a 70%. And from what I know, 70% is different than 100%.
And also, as I said, I'm playing on a French server, so things are worse. But I asked people from other zones, and they pretty much say the same thing, so meh ... But I'm not going into that debate again, as I said. I said my opinion, so I don't need to say it once again.
I like this quote very much, that's maybe why I always say it in such debates :
"You can say what you want, think what you want, and do what you want on a forum, as long as you don't break any rules. But there's one thing you can't change : The other people's opinions. They make opinion off you. And you'll have to deal with it."
... There's one thing I'd like to add to this. You're losing your nerves and insulting me, after what I said. Did I say something offensive, or does it mean "something else" ? (This is not a question.) ...
Sirem wrote:
Lets see...
Swimming
Jumping
Mountain climbing
Soloing
Sunken ship treasure hunting (kinda goes with swimming but meh)
Flying from city to city on Manticores, Giant Bats, Griffons, and Hippogriffs all the while getting a birds eye view of the entire landscape including seeing people as they group, PvP and Raid all while flying by on a creature of legend
Your own mount
Pets you can name and REALY control
Total freedom to go and do antything you want IE "Hey see that mountain over there? Let's go climb to the top and see what we can see."
Private Instanced dungeons where the monsters you came to kill can not be stolen by the latest HNM, MPK happy ******** to hit the scene.
An a economy that is not abused and destroyed by RMT's
I hope thats enough.
I've been reading a lot of posts on this site about this and what I hear is that WoW has no story and this is a bunch of BS WoW has an epic storyline that has transgresed through EVERY single Warcraft game ever made. They (Unlike FF) all tie together to make one giant story. Obviously most of you are not fans of War Craft in the first place otherwise you would know that FFXI's story pales in comparision to the story of War Craft and the people of Azeroth's struggle against the Demon Hordes of The Burning Legion. When people say WoW has no story, what I think they mean to say is that WoW has no Cut Scenes. THis is very true as to no story that is just a plain {Lie}
I also read that you can get from lvl 1 to lvl 60 in 1 month on average. Now am I missing something here? Do the people who made this statement have lives out side of MMO's? DO they Sleep, eat go to movies, have friends or use the bathroom? In order to get to lvl 60 in one month that would require you to get 2 lvls a day EVERYDAY! for a month. I play this game and FFXI mostly WoW currently because I am waitning for people to catch up to me, but thats not the point I only work weekends, I play WoW for Hours I'm talking some days for 15+ hours. I don't think I am bad at Video Games. But I have played this game for well over a month now and look at me without a shiney 60th lvl character and full epic gear T-T, granted I do have three 20+ lvl characters...
I don't know perhaps it's the fact that I have a life and Uhh eat and sleep and shower and stuff that is preventing me from doing this.
Oh it could be because I am on a RP server and spend waaay to much time talking smack and having damn fine conversations with random strangers... Oh wait I am wrong everyone keeps telling me that WoW has no comunity (More BS)
I guess my question now is...
If WoW is such a horrible game and so glichy and just so plain crappy...
Then why are half of you so obviously worried that it's going to cause you to lose FFXI or something.
I've heard it said a few times in this thread (95% of the time by current WoW players) They are both Great games, They both have thier pros and cons.
If I may close with a quote...
"Can't we all just get along?"~Rodney King~
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What does it have that you can do in WoW that you cant do in FFXI
Lets see...
Swimming
Jumping
Mountain climbing
Soloing
Sunken ship treasure hunting (kinda goes with swimming but meh)
Flying from city to city on Manticores, Giant Bats, Griffons, and Hippogriffs all the while getting a birds eye view of the entire landscape including seeing people as they group, PvP and Raid all while flying by on a creature of legend
Your own mount
Pets you can name and REALY control
Total freedom to go and do antything you want IE "Hey see that mountain over there? Let's go climb to the top and see what we can see."
Private Instanced dungeons where the monsters you came to kill can not be stolen by the latest HNM, MPK happy ******** to hit the scene.
An a economy that is not abused and destroyed by RMT's
I hope thats enough.
I've been reading a lot of posts on this site about this and what I hear is that WoW has no story and this is a bunch of BS WoW has an epic storyline that has transgresed through EVERY single Warcraft game ever made. They (Unlike FF) all tie together to make one giant story. Obviously most of you are not fans of War Craft in the first place otherwise you would know that FFXI's story pales in comparision to the story of War Craft and the people of Azeroth's struggle against the Demon Hordes of The Burning Legion. When people say WoW has no story, what I think they mean to say is that WoW has no Cut Scenes. THis is very true as to no story that is just a plain {Lie}
I also read that you can get from lvl 1 to lvl 60 in 1 month on average. Now am I missing something here? Do the people who made this statement have lives out side of MMO's? DO they Sleep, eat go to movies, have friends or use the bathroom? In order to get to lvl 60 in one month that would require you to get 2 lvls a day EVERYDAY! for a month. I play this game and FFXI mostly WoW currently because I am waitning for people to catch up to me, but thats not the point I only work weekends, I play WoW for Hours I'm talking some days for 15+ hours. I don't think I am bad at Video Games. But I have played this game for well over a month now and look at me without a shiney 60th lvl character and full epic gear T-T, granted I do have three 20+ lvl characters...
I don't know perhaps it's the fact that I have a life and Uhh eat and sleep and shower and stuff that is preventing me from doing this.
Oh it could be because I am on a RP server and spend waaay to much time talking smack and having damn fine conversations with random strangers... Oh wait I am wrong everyone keeps telling me that WoW has no comunity (More BS)
I guess my question now is...
If WoW is such a horrible game and so glichy and just so plain crappy...
Then why are half of you so obviously worried that it's going to cause you to lose FFXI or something.
I've heard it said a few times in this thread (95% of the time by current WoW players) They are both Great games, They both have thier pros and cons.
If I may close with a quote...
"Can't we all just get along?"~Rodney King~
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