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Kickass job guys, congrats on taking the big ******* down.
congrats to everyone to was there :D
was a fun fight
was a fun fight
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about stolen tactics...
the list of people who "stole" tactics for...
Kirin... Fafnir, Aspido, KB, etc, could go for MILES and months of the past of who was just "standing around" for some of our or other ls's fights. by your logic you just called the whole of the HNM Ls's thieves.
Knowledge and ideas are one thing, Execution is the rub.
2 Zerg tactics...
You serious? some things take more people in the early days, we've all seen 30+ people fighting fafnir. I dont consider even Iron's large recruitment to be zerg myself anymore because they just went out and recruited the numbers so they could do this sort of stuff internally. not their fault if they have a similar turnout for lesser mobs too.
About AD and alliance...
I dont think the alliance ever ended, people got frustrated from dying to vrtra and took breaks from it, but looky here... we killed ourselves a Dragon!!! (DL+attestations+fragments next :D)
Have a nice cup of vinegar with your sour grapes, sit and think before you speak ^^
Edited, Mon May 23 12:49:48 2005 by Synapsiswhm
the list of people who "stole" tactics for...
Kirin... Fafnir, Aspido, KB, etc, could go for MILES and months of the past of who was just "standing around" for some of our or other ls's fights. by your logic you just called the whole of the HNM Ls's thieves.
Knowledge and ideas are one thing, Execution is the rub.
2 Zerg tactics...
You serious? some things take more people in the early days, we've all seen 30+ people fighting fafnir. I dont consider even Iron's large recruitment to be zerg myself anymore because they just went out and recruited the numbers so they could do this sort of stuff internally. not their fault if they have a similar turnout for lesser mobs too.
About AD and alliance...
I dont think the alliance ever ended, people got frustrated from dying to vrtra and took breaks from it, but looky here... we killed ourselves a Dragon!!! (DL+attestations+fragments next :D)
Have a nice cup of vinegar with your sour grapes, sit and think before you speak ^^
Edited, Mon May 23 12:49:48 2005 by Synapsiswhm
Congrats!!
I watched for a little while, was great fun! and congrats to the lucky bard that will get their JSE! O.O
I watched for a little while, was great fun! and congrats to the lucky bard that will get their JSE! O.O
great work guys.
/clap
congratulations!
/clap
congratulations!
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ya mean first two LS combined defeated it
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And fyi Lunerdians didnt beat him solo, it was a joint attempt
I doubt any LS will be able to say they beat it solo. From what I heard from friends that were there is that they were all in the same LS were they not? Lunarians/AD beat Vrtra and Iron/Genesis are next to beat it.
"Iron/Genesis" Is one linkshell lol, They all wear IRON LS and when they merged they both were only half as ls...
curious as to why you are constantly up IRON's *** like they need your support...they don't even like you....or is this your way to try and create tension between LS's?...not working...
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Its funny that people are asking if I am that person posting **** about this, and thats a negative, im right here.
Im not impressed at all by the death of Vrtra on Bismarck, you have 2 LS's that worked together to kill it, great job, but I will only appluad the TEAMWORK between the two linkshells.
The facts are, there were 100+ people in the area, so its safe to say that there were ATLEAST 80+ people involved in the battle. You were the 1st LS to kill it on our server. The picutre that was posted with "the team that killed Vrtra" is lie because there are about 40 people in it, and not 80. The tatics that were used were originaly done by IRON with around 50 people(if that).
Invoky, you said after Vrtra last night "Why do you defend IRON, they dont even like you", thats great man, ask yourself, do you think I really give a **** who likes me on Bismarck? I think I made it clear by now I dont need a "support group" linkshell to back my decisions. IRON is more respected becuase they dont get involved in the drama, and stay to thereselfs. I wish I could say the same for AD and Lurnothins, loving to talk **** because they lose a claim when there JP botter is not there {That's too bad.}
In general, ********************** on the Kill, the more you try to make this a big deal the more it will just be frowned upon by other HNMLS who do the job, solo.
Have a nice day, befor Rusty posts Ill save him the trouble.
"O - W - N - E - D"
Edited, Mon May 23 18:58:54 2005 by gfive
Edited, Mon May 23 19:02:59 2005 by gfive
Im not impressed at all by the death of Vrtra on Bismarck, you have 2 LS's that worked together to kill it, great job, but I will only appluad the TEAMWORK between the two linkshells.
The facts are, there were 100+ people in the area, so its safe to say that there were ATLEAST 80+ people involved in the battle. You were the 1st LS to kill it on our server. The picutre that was posted with "the team that killed Vrtra" is lie because there are about 40 people in it, and not 80. The tatics that were used were originaly done by IRON with around 50 people(if that).
Invoky, you said after Vrtra last night "Why do you defend IRON, they dont even like you", thats great man, ask yourself, do you think I really give a **** who likes me on Bismarck? I think I made it clear by now I dont need a "support group" linkshell to back my decisions. IRON is more respected becuase they dont get involved in the drama, and stay to thereselfs. I wish I could say the same for AD and Lurnothins, loving to talk **** because they lose a claim when there JP botter is not there {That's too bad.}
In general, ********************** on the Kill, the more you try to make this a big deal the more it will just be frowned upon by other HNMLS who do the job, solo.
Have a nice day, befor Rusty posts Ill save him the trouble.
"O - W - N - E - D"
Edited, Mon May 23 18:58:54 2005 by gfive
Edited, Mon May 23 19:02:59 2005 by gfive
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Losing arguments is the new winning arguments.
actually Gfive, those "IRON tactics" are not IRON's either...sorry to burst your bubble for those tactics are commonly used on other servers that have already killed Vrtra...not dissing on IRON whatsoever, as they are are making great progress....I'm simply just pointing out that your "tactics" argument is 100% false....
btw when we fought Vrtra previous times and got him to 5%, we had far fewer people than 64...are we to turn our excess members away when we reach YOUR "acceptable" count?....
btw when we fought Vrtra previous times and got him to 5%, we had far fewer people than 64...are we to turn our excess members away when we reach YOUR "acceptable" count?....
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IRON was the 1st to use the tactics(to kill vrtra) on Bismarck, yours failed terribly every week you would try, and try, and try untill you stoped for a few weeks, and IRON have it a shot. IRON did a great job trying the few times they did, but now I can see that there tactics were flawed, because they didnt have a extra 40+ holding there hand.
Its funny because "DragonSlayers" stoped trying untill IRON almost killed it the 1st try. Like I said, the more your blowing this up into a big deal turns into the the more respect your losing by every post you(AD+Lunia) make.
When 1(thats solo, only one) of your linkshells make a kill on Jimmy or Vrtra let me know. Goodluck with that.
Its funny because "DragonSlayers" stoped trying untill IRON almost killed it the 1st try. Like I said, the more your blowing this up into a big deal turns into the the more respect your losing by every post you(AD+Lunia) make.
When 1(thats solo, only one) of your linkshells make a kill on Jimmy or Vrtra let me know. Goodluck with that.
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I'm going to close my eyes and run into a crowded department store shouting "BLAHBLAHCOCKCOCKBLAHBLAH" for as long as I can.
When security arrest me and beat me to a pulp, I'll be able to say I owned them.
When security arrest me and beat me to a pulp, I'll be able to say I owned them.
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I will admit... I'm a little slow at understanding the thinking of 5 year olds because like most individuals i've grown up but ok let me see if I can attempt to lower myself to your level.
80+ people? So what. So what if there were 100 people from the combined LS's there? Your an idiot. Or better yet why don't you go prove us wrong, Not AD and Lunarians but DragonSlayers, because thats what we are when we fight the dragons.
Now since you've got the bark of a mountain lion but your presence can probably make a retarted child laugh why don't you go attempt Vrtra. Go ahead, grab 40 of your friends and beat it. Fact of the matter is that you can't, and won't. You come onto the fourms and try to lessen the true scope of our victory.
IRON could probably beat it soon, good for them they've been working on it. When it comes to HNM's on Bismarck it's what half the fun is, camping and the Claim because when you claim and the item drops it makes it that much sweeter.
I am usually pritty quite when it comes to trash talk, I don't care if someone gets an item from someone else because of stupidity or whatever. But honestly you come to the fourms just to try to stir up trouble, Why?
I think I might have that figured out. Here are some of my guesses:
1) ***** Envy Complex: Your upset because we can do what you can not and now your upset.
2) Computer Screen Power: You can sit behind a desk and just Talk trash because everyone knows that no one can really do anything about it, thus giving you a false sence of power which was probably origionally stripped from you when your abusive alcholic father beat you.
3) Freaking Fetish Syndrom: Simply said you get off to trying to start up trouble.
4) Importance Syndrom: You think you are doing someone some good by trying to start problems. Nope
I have more but I'm gonna refrain from making you look worse. Now here is an Idea to help improve your reputation. It involves a few Step process lets see if you can follow:
1) Beat yourself over the head with a large Pipe. This will probably cause swelling of the brain but no worries the brain has no nerves which sence pain. This might help change your tough guy attitude.
2) Visit the head of a religious center at your town because you need help.
3) Throw out FFXI and get WoW where MPK and jumpping people is considered healthy and good tactics.
Personally I don't care if the Thread is locked after this post. I'd prefer it locked then having people who are just gonna attempt to start problems by posting inconsistant facts which they made up or try to start problems between any LS's for that matter.
Do yourself a favor and refrain from talking trash, you only make yourself look worse and worse. And by the way why don't you just include your Character Name. See how many invites you get once people find out your a idiot.
We defeated Vrtra. We, as DragonSlayers defeated Vrtra, and for everyone in the LS's this is an accomplishment which we are still in shock about. You, my very confused nemisis, are probably upset because you've never had the oppertunity to actually claim the dragon or other Large HNM unless someone else claims for you and you try to steal it after hates been built so you don't die because lets face it, it's obvious that I can walk to the mental ward, grab a one armed ****** who can smash his head on the keyboard and still have the ability to perform better then you.
Now go along and respond to this, I dare you. You'll probably try to come back at me with some mature joke about me or someone in my family, won't be funny. You can keep up this stupid Rant you have going about how we aren't good, No ones gonna listen until you go beat Vrtra. How Lunarians are only using AD, Yet we split drops 50/50... Looks like you've been proven wrong in just about every area which you could even try.
Sad to say is that I'm not a guy who just talks crap on the fourms in hopes for anything, I just want to play FFXI and not be bothered by Idiots. So please stop making yourself look bad and why don't you go F*** Yourself, because it's obvious no one else will and thats where this anger comes from.
80+ people? So what. So what if there were 100 people from the combined LS's there? Your an idiot. Or better yet why don't you go prove us wrong, Not AD and Lunarians but DragonSlayers, because thats what we are when we fight the dragons.
Now since you've got the bark of a mountain lion but your presence can probably make a retarted child laugh why don't you go attempt Vrtra. Go ahead, grab 40 of your friends and beat it. Fact of the matter is that you can't, and won't. You come onto the fourms and try to lessen the true scope of our victory.
IRON could probably beat it soon, good for them they've been working on it. When it comes to HNM's on Bismarck it's what half the fun is, camping and the Claim because when you claim and the item drops it makes it that much sweeter.
I am usually pritty quite when it comes to trash talk, I don't care if someone gets an item from someone else because of stupidity or whatever. But honestly you come to the fourms just to try to stir up trouble, Why?
I think I might have that figured out. Here are some of my guesses:
1) ***** Envy Complex: Your upset because we can do what you can not and now your upset.
2) Computer Screen Power: You can sit behind a desk and just Talk trash because everyone knows that no one can really do anything about it, thus giving you a false sence of power which was probably origionally stripped from you when your abusive alcholic father beat you.
3) Freaking Fetish Syndrom: Simply said you get off to trying to start up trouble.
4) Importance Syndrom: You think you are doing someone some good by trying to start problems. Nope
I have more but I'm gonna refrain from making you look worse. Now here is an Idea to help improve your reputation. It involves a few Step process lets see if you can follow:
1) Beat yourself over the head with a large Pipe. This will probably cause swelling of the brain but no worries the brain has no nerves which sence pain. This might help change your tough guy attitude.
2) Visit the head of a religious center at your town because you need help.
3) Throw out FFXI and get WoW where MPK and jumpping people is considered healthy and good tactics.
Personally I don't care if the Thread is locked after this post. I'd prefer it locked then having people who are just gonna attempt to start problems by posting inconsistant facts which they made up or try to start problems between any LS's for that matter.
Do yourself a favor and refrain from talking trash, you only make yourself look worse and worse. And by the way why don't you just include your Character Name. See how many invites you get once people find out your a idiot.
We defeated Vrtra. We, as DragonSlayers defeated Vrtra, and for everyone in the LS's this is an accomplishment which we are still in shock about. You, my very confused nemisis, are probably upset because you've never had the oppertunity to actually claim the dragon or other Large HNM unless someone else claims for you and you try to steal it after hates been built so you don't die because lets face it, it's obvious that I can walk to the mental ward, grab a one armed ****** who can smash his head on the keyboard and still have the ability to perform better then you.
Now go along and respond to this, I dare you. You'll probably try to come back at me with some mature joke about me or someone in my family, won't be funny. You can keep up this stupid Rant you have going about how we aren't good, No ones gonna listen until you go beat Vrtra. How Lunarians are only using AD, Yet we split drops 50/50... Looks like you've been proven wrong in just about every area which you could even try.
Sad to say is that I'm not a guy who just talks crap on the fourms in hopes for anything, I just want to play FFXI and not be bothered by Idiots. So please stop making yourself look bad and why don't you go F*** Yourself, because it's obvious no one else will and thats where this anger comes from.
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 7:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Aww, did I upset you?
I saw on Iron's website that they only got it down 5%. I hardly think that means they almost killed it. How do you know what Lunarians/AD haven't tried. You think they have never attempted to kite it before. As far as I have read in these forums is that there are two methods of taking: straight up tanking and kiting.
I did a search in that zone and there was not 80 people there and slot of the people I saw don't resemble those that are members. I could be wrong if they happened to have outdates rosters on their forums but it's not likely.
Guess Iron will never have your respect then when they kill it? They're basically the combination of old Iron and Genesis. Same thing as Lunarians/AD except that they aren't permanently together.
You're giving the HNM atmosphere a bad name and I hope this is not what people have to look forward to.
I did a search in that zone and there was not 80 people there and slot of the people I saw don't resemble those that are members. I could be wrong if they happened to have outdates rosters on their forums but it's not likely.
Guess Iron will never have your respect then when they kill it? They're basically the combination of old Iron and Genesis. Same thing as Lunarians/AD except that they aren't permanently together.
You're giving the HNM atmosphere a bad name and I hope this is not what people have to look forward to.
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IRON was the 1st to use the tactics(to kill vrtra) on Bismarck, yours failed terribly every week you would try, and try, and try untill you stoped for a few weeks, and IRON have it a shot. IRON did a great job trying the few times they did, but now I can see that there tactics were flawed, because they didnt have a extra 40+ holding there hand.
Its funny because "DragonSlayers" stoped trying untill IRON almost killed it the 1st try. Like I said, the more your blowing this up into a big deal turns into the the more respect your losing by every post you(AD+Lunia) make.
When 1(thats solo, only one) of your linkshells make a kill on Jimmy or Vrtra let me know. Goodluck with that.
Its funny because "DragonSlayers" stoped trying untill IRON almost killed it the 1st try. Like I said, the more your blowing this up into a big deal turns into the the more respect your losing by every post you(AD+Lunia) make.
When 1(thats solo, only one) of your linkshells make a kill on Jimmy or Vrtra let me know. Goodluck with that.
IRON was the first to use the tactics to kill Vrtra.
Hmm, even IRON members are going to disagree with you there. I honestly have no clue what you could mean. Dragonslayers has been attempting Vrtra for quite a period of time before IRON. Tactics aren't stolen, they are learned through experience, and perfected. I watched the IRON attempt, and it didn't look very similar to the Dragonslayers attempt from what I was able to observe. At any rate,do you think there is a reason why every HNM LS is existence put its members on Fafnir's feet, instead of putting 16 thiefs behind him for Sneak/Trick attack? Are we all just stealing tactics from each other?
In regards to attendance, what can I say?
Lunarians and AD are two linkshells that are very excited to team up and take out the biggest, baddest monsters in FFXI. Our high attendance should make that relatively obvious.
I personally don't really see a need for AD or Lunarians to take Vrtra or Jimmy solo. To me, Dragonslayers is one of the best things in FFXI. It's rare you can get HNM shells to get over the massive egos that typically develop, and work together to accomplish something.
It's more then I can say for your linkshell Killuminati, maybe if you stopped calling for help/stealing HNMs/being a general prick, you would learn the concept a community game, and why some of us play FFXI. Maybe Domination and Tomato could team up and claim Tom Tit Tat?
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Um... No, you didn't win.
AD has beaten Fafnir without the help of anyone before, hell we've beet Nidhogg. Proven Wrong yet again. Vrtra isn't campped now but will be in the future.
Sure my thread was ment to flame you, to be honest I think you should just stop posting negitive comments, why do you do it?
Why not instead go down there with an alliance and beat it, prove EVERYONE wrong and beat it. Show us who is better. Matter of the fact is that you can't, so why try to ruin it for us? If you know so much about tactics and are so great and we are so bad gather together your friends and beat it.
Try not to change the subject when you know you are on the loosing side of an arguement, as you did when you accused people of buying gil. Doesn't look good. Your out of your League Kid when it comes to the dragons, so don't show your disapointment in our Victory because no one wants to read about it. This Thread wasn't ment for you to trash it was ment to congrat. everyone for their accomplishment.
AD has beaten Fafnir without the help of anyone before, hell we've beet Nidhogg. Proven Wrong yet again. Vrtra isn't campped now but will be in the future.
Sure my thread was ment to flame you, to be honest I think you should just stop posting negitive comments, why do you do it?
Why not instead go down there with an alliance and beat it, prove EVERYONE wrong and beat it. Show us who is better. Matter of the fact is that you can't, so why try to ruin it for us? If you know so much about tactics and are so great and we are so bad gather together your friends and beat it.
Try not to change the subject when you know you are on the loosing side of an arguement, as you did when you accused people of buying gil. Doesn't look good. Your out of your League Kid when it comes to the dragons, so don't show your disapointment in our Victory because no one wants to read about it. This Thread wasn't ment for you to trash it was ment to congrat. everyone for their accomplishment.
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AD cant even kill Fafnir without half of the LS dieing.
Making stuff up is pretty easy huh, what other stuff can you make up?
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SINCE HE'S OWNING FOR JUSTICE, he is immune to his own accusations.
It's very funny, because I remember when I was in iron watching AD wipe to fafnir, I think you gave it to lunerds as you were dieing, or just had them help. Killum pritty much owned you on every issue, not much I can say. Except for that iron will always own you guys. You stole tatics from them. Simple as that. Please explain to me why you would change tatics after getting it to 5%? You got it to 5% then switch tatics 100% different.. I don't understand that.
I also remember camping fafnir, loved it when lunerds would talk **** to us in /say. I HATED iron for not letting us say anything back to you. But at the end of the day, thats why we will NEVER cfh on any of their monsters, or attack them in ANY way. I have NEVER heard a iron member talk **** to me, post on these boreds or send me /tells talking **** to me(I get 1 lunerd sending me hate tells per week). They wont slap me in town, steal my NM, or be mean to me in any way shape or form. That is why iron owns you every day, and why we will never be at war with them.
As for iron and vrtra they got it to about 85-90% with 40 people,
including the helpers who came to watch and decied to help on anything that was CFH. They did that in little under 30mins and it was their second try at vrtra, then suffered a flail spike.
On the point of flail spike, you got extreamly lucky, I saw the picture of vrtra readying flail but then hammy was too far away. You guys lucked out in the end of the day. If there way nothing about being too far away, you would have failed again like you should have failed this time.
I also remember camping fafnir, loved it when lunerds would talk **** to us in /say. I HATED iron for not letting us say anything back to you. But at the end of the day, thats why we will NEVER cfh on any of their monsters, or attack them in ANY way. I have NEVER heard a iron member talk **** to me, post on these boreds or send me /tells talking **** to me(I get 1 lunerd sending me hate tells per week). They wont slap me in town, steal my NM, or be mean to me in any way shape or form. That is why iron owns you every day, and why we will never be at war with them.
As for iron and vrtra they got it to about 85-90% with 40 people,
including the helpers who came to watch and decied to help on anything that was CFH. They did that in little under 30mins and it was their second try at vrtra, then suffered a flail spike.
On the point of flail spike, you got extreamly lucky, I saw the picture of vrtra readying flail but then hammy was too far away. You guys lucked out in the end of the day. If there way nothing about being too far away, you would have failed again like you should have failed this time.
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It's very funny, because I remember when I was in iron watching AD wipe to fafnir, I think you gave it to lunerds as you were dieing, or just had them help. Killum pritty much owned you on every issue, not much I can say. Except for that iron will always own you guys. You stole tatics from them. Simple as that. Please explain to me why you would change tatics after getting it to 5%? You got it to 5% then switch tatics 100% different.. I don't understand that.
I also remember camping fafnir, loved it when lunerds would talk sh*t to us in /say. I HATED iron for not letting us say anything back to you. But at the end of the day, thats why we will NEVER cfh on any of their monsters, or attack them in ANY way. I have NEVER heard a iron member talk sh*t to me, post on these boreds or send me /tells talking sh*t to me(I get 1 lunerd sending me hate tells per week). They wont slap me in town, steal my NM, or be mean to me in any way shape or form. That is why iron owns you every day, and why we will never be at war with them.
As for iron and vrtra they got it to about 85-90% with 40 people,
including the helpers who came to watch and decied to help on anything that was CFH. They did that in little under 30mins and it was their second try at vrtra, then suffered a flail spike.
On the point of flail spike, you got extreamly lucky, I saw the picture of vrtra readying flail but then hammy was too far away. You guys lucked out in the end of the day. If there way nothing about being too far away, you would have failed again like you should have failed this time.
I also remember camping fafnir, loved it when lunerds would talk sh*t to us in /say. I HATED iron for not letting us say anything back to you. But at the end of the day, thats why we will NEVER cfh on any of their monsters, or attack them in ANY way. I have NEVER heard a iron member talk sh*t to me, post on these boreds or send me /tells talking sh*t to me(I get 1 lunerd sending me hate tells per week). They wont slap me in town, steal my NM, or be mean to me in any way shape or form. That is why iron owns you every day, and why we will never be at war with them.
As for iron and vrtra they got it to about 85-90% with 40 people,
including the helpers who came to watch and decied to help on anything that was CFH. They did that in little under 30mins and it was their second try at vrtra, then suffered a flail spike.
On the point of flail spike, you got extreamly lucky, I saw the picture of vrtra readying flail but then hammy was too far away. You guys lucked out in the end of the day. If there way nothing about being too far away, you would have failed again like you should have failed this time.
/sigh.
Once again.
Dragonslayers did not steal tactics. We were attempting Vrtra before IRON. We experimented with a number of different tactics well before IRON attempted their first Vrtra.
As far as the rest of your post, are you still talking about numbers? I really don't get it.
AD/Lunarians are two relatively large linkshells. AD/Lunarians both have very active players ready to team up, and take on difficult notorious monsters.
Our attendance on Sunday, (which was not 80+ btw, there were quite a few people just coming down to show support, and I believe an XP PT was there later in the afternoon, as well as a few trolls attempting to call for help), should go to show that we have players willing and excited to team up. I'm sure Dragonslayers will continue to kill Vrtra, and we will do it in the future with less, but for now, we have members that want to accomplish a goal, and we did. It's more then I can say for you.
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