Dragonice, DIAMOND, and unhonorable behaviorFollow

Well ladies and gents, it had been a while I hadnt posted here.

If some of you remember me, I am mostly harmless, in a mostly harmless LS, the Renkeidorz. We are in no way a powerhouse in any kind, and are not interested in becoming one either. More like a LS of friends. We manage on our own, get creative when we need stuff, and mostly enjoy an anonymous life as one of the oldest (if not the oldest)never broken NA LS.

Well since weve all slowly got to 75, were trying our luck at sky farming and gods popping. As some of you may know, the place is now incredibly packed, filled with powerhouses like AD, Lunies, Iron, BS, Aurora etc farming God items on a regular basis.

Tis all good thou, some people put a lot more energy in this game, get TODS and stuff so they have an advantage over us, and well competition is all fine: we are not as commited as these big LS's are, so obviously, we wont get as many triggers etc.

We accept this.

Tonight, we were at zippy pop for a good 40 minutes, (I had previously passed some pretty boring 2 hour earlier to get TOD) trying to get our stone for Genbu. We found, him, we are on the right side, and we are getting ready to pull. No one is here yet.

A rng, Elfry, DIAMOND LS, rushes trough and aggroes the detector.

Now we are nice people. Maybe this is what you cynical bastards will all tell me once you read this post. Maybe youll tell me, dont be such wussies, let her die next time. Maybe youll imply, (like the leader of the Diamond shell told me - but im jumping ahead of myself), that this was our fault.

We picked up the aggro. Detector popped a robot, we killed it
We even got a {thank you}

While we were doing this, Elfry went and shadowbinded Zippy, so the others from her LS managed to make in in time to kill it.

When faced with these facts after the fight, the leader, Dragonice said the following:

1) Calm Down
2) We are all here for the same things, it happens
3) YOU MADE THE CHOICE TO HELP OUR RNG

For the record, and so everyone knows, I think I lost it at that point, and replied with some well chosen curses, which i repeated 3 times. Got blacklisted... I mean anyways, what can you possibly answer to this.

Then to top it all, another leader, Elite, who wasnt there hits me up and asks,

Whats the problem?

I told him the story again. his great findings were the following:

1) Weve had it done to us, so we are doing it to you. (summary)
When faced with the question : "what has my Ls ever done to you" his answer was: "I am blisting you"

2) Elfry is dishonorable, not DIAMOND.

3) oh ya, this is a game, dont go ******** blablabla

I am still a little speechless about this. I guess what hits me the most is the sheer arrogance, the lack of any kind of apology, almost like its our fault for being bloody idiots for saving their rng.

Anyways, this is the story, I'll let you draw your own conclusions about Elfry, Dragonice, Elite and the LS DIAMOND.

Kingpopof

Alright situation. If you got aggro from a mob while camping a NM and someone takes it off you, are you just going to sit there and let them take the NM 'cause they helped you out? I wouldn't imagine many actually doing this. If you see a NM, you claim it and hope for the drop. Maybe you helped her out with her aggro, but why would she waste time and not go after zip. Her main objective at the time was to claim zip and the fact that you helped her allowed them to claim it. If I were in charge i'd say "Let her die and give her a R3." so you still get your trigger and she lose minimal exp. Maybe i'm selfish in my point of view, but that's just how I see that.

Edited, Sun May 8 23:59:24 2005 by Strazer

Didnt want to reply this thread until I saw all those negative comments...

So.. "nice guy always go last"? thats pretty sh1ty.. what about the "moral"?

Edited, Mon May 9 02:33:57 2005 by Invoky

I dont get what you are saying man =/

If I spend hours trying to pop the rabbit NM in ronfaure and someone claims it, does that make it wrong?

Invoky, I may have misread what you were trying to say so I dunno.

That is why sky is such a lovely place lately since more and more people reach 75 ;x It sucks that it was done to you, but it is only a honor thing and not many people care for that. Just retry to get zipacna later and not let it fall into the hands of TOMATO ^^

You're right Voky, I have been nice to alot of people in game just for them to turn on me later.

Sad thing about it all not only do the "nice guys always come in last", but I play Dynamis twice a week with Elfry... would think I'd get alittle more respect from people I alliance with.

I think the point that Kpp is trying to make is that he knows what choices the Dorkz had and when faced with the decision, they helped rather than ignored another player.

I was not there, but I can vouch for Kpp. He's not one to get pissed off for nothing.

This is one of the main reasons that I have only been to Sky once since I got access. I've read the discussions here on how there is a certain etiquette that higher level members have in Sky and that you learn as you go along. Seems like that "etiquette" changes when it's convenient.

It's mighty hypocritical of those that posted here to say that the RNG did nothing wrong. If anything he/she is helping to ruin the spirit of this game.

Dorkz/IC - Please don't let one player or HNMLS leader change your atitude about doing the right thing people. There are not enough decent people in this game, let alone in real life. Don't let them change who you are.


Cat

did i missread the OP? for some reason the title is "Dragonice, Diamond, and unhonorable behavior" but yet you listed nothing in your post about dragonice or anything he did to be considered unhonorable behavior. slander much?

i wont put my opinion about the situation since its none of my business.

Welcome to end game HNM drama.

When I played, I remember being in Sky and battling Steam Cleaner. It was bad and our alliance was almost dead. Steam Cleaner literaly had a sliver of life, and at this point a JP alliance showed up. I swear we were a cure III away from winning, but they just sat and watched us die.

But the good thing is, other LS arent like this.

Lunarians and AD will actualy ask what you are camping that way to avoid butting heads whenever possible. And in a jam, because of their reputation, I bet they would do the right thing.

I suppose what I want to say, I'm sorry your first experience in Sky was poor, it won't be the last time either. But don't be upset, there are a lot of good LS and this hopefully won't be the common trend.


As far as DIAMOND, what do you expect from a LS that advertized Hakutaku runs for their own personal profit on the main page of their web site? What would make you think they are for anything but their own personal gain?

-Fel

As far as I know AD pulled MG "after" you guys wiped on your own, not because you tried to save AD member =/

Bodkn is a good guy he gave us Curtana when they had too much, and Diamond arent all bad. Dont want to see everyone curse a LS coz one indicent =/

Yeah, Voky that's correct, sorry should have been more clear. We were prepping for pull and AD started coming through port. We all waved at each other and then AD started prepping for pull. In a rush we had to pull while some still weakened and some still on their way and wiped on our own w/ 20% left w/ 10 ppl. AD finished it off and helped w/ raises. At the time we were new to sky and thought this to be offensive b/c AD knew we were there for it, but since learned that everyone needs these items just as we do. Now I just say nice kill for you guys. :)

This is no longer an issue, only brought it up b/c it put us in a similar situation. ^.~ AD is a good shell.

OMFG, you all don't get it. We are not here to ***** and whine that we lost a mob. We are clearly stateing facts in an undesirable incident that happened to inform others how certain HNMLS's/people preform.

Kpp and I are not strangers to sky either. And when possible we do goto other HNMLS leaders in sky to collaborate on mobs. We (Kpp and I) alliance our ls's to give the our members a chance to do the fun end-game stuff without haveing to join a HNMLS, which most shutter at.

This thread just proves that most people would rather **** on you than help, that nice people are just "dumb" ... nice society we live in these days.

That's all I have left to say, flame away.. it's inevitable.