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#77 Mar 04 2005 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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Not having Dispel at level 32+ is a crime. ><

It's 60k in Windurst/Rabao, people. Not exactly hard to acquire.

Edited, Fri Mar 4 11:27:16 2005 by Theophany
#78 Mar 22 2005 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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Per request of the board:

Parjanic, you must not be familiar with bboard sites.

AD doesn't have 261 members. We have 261 people registered on our site. Allow me to refer you to the thread listed as "ArchDominus Member List": http://archdominus.valkurm.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=74

Those are our members, more or less.

Back to the fun.
#79 Mar 22 2005 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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Krackhead, you would be correct. Digalante is not a member of AD, but he is applying to be a member. I did my research, but it would seem that I didn't do enough. So Digalante, again, is not a member of AD, but has applied for membership to AD.


So, yeah, I applied once and got turned down then made a second post asking a question but only one person answered XD. That has no real bearing on what I said. I don't personally know the parties involved. All I have is what you said, which in-itself was rude enough. Why is it so hard for you to just accept that one person who has their flag up, for reasons that don't concern you, and look for someone else?

I mean, I could see you posting if someone accepted your invite and said they would meet you somewhere, and then never showed up. He was kind enough to tell you no. What else do you want? A song a dance?


I think tonight I am going to send tells to everyone who is LFG just to make sure that they are there and that they are willing to join a party.


(/dance)
#80 Mar 22 2005 at 4:29 PM Rating: Default
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Some one that I would like to report about for being unsavory is Bowser.

Here is what happened:

I was walking by the AH when I seen Bowser in front of AH window. I said dude can I have some gill. He said sorry I don’t have any.

So I say ok fine. I go about my business. When I happen to walk by the AH again I still see Bowser standing there in front of the AH window. I am like wth, why is he still in front of the AH window if he does not have any gill. So I ask him "Why are you still at the AH if you don’t have any gill to give me?". He replies with something along the lines of "It doesn't concern you, don't worry about it." Well....correct me if I'm wrong but I need gill, and he is buying something from the AH, so this definitely concerns me.

This time I tell him that I really need gill and because he is in front of the AH he must have some gill to spare. Again, he just says "don't worry about it."

By this point I'm already pretty pissed off. So I tell him that its rude to be in front of the AH if you don’t plan on giving others gill. Again, he just says "don't worry about it."

I fling a series of insults at him about him being an a$$hole and such (since that's exactly what he was being), and he just stood there in front of the AH for another 30 mins.

I just can't believe how rude some people are.


This is an absolutely horrible post. Because a person is standing in from of the AH doesn't mean they have to give gil to random people who send them a /tell.

The same applies to people with their flag up. They don't have to party if they have it up, but it sure as hell is rude if they leave it up while they don't want to.


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Maybe he didn't like your subjob choice?
Maybe he didn't like your rank?
Maybe he didn't like your job?

All reason's that point to Kfcc being rude. A player's job/subjob choice and rank are all horrible reasons to decline an invite to a party. Sure, nobody can force him to party with someone. But to decline an invite for any of these reasons just makes you a rude person.

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I am just curious as to how he was mis-using the LFG flag? Because he was looking for a group, but not yours?

If he did not intent to party at all, then he is mis-using it.
If just didn't want to join my party based on one of the above reasons, that's just rude and proves my point.

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So in short you call one player and @#%^ then add him to the bad player list, then add another player to the list told you to @#%^ off?

I insulted these people only after they were rude to me.

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(after you snatched a claim up from under him no less..)

I was already after the tiger before he could even see it. Hardly snatching a claim from him.

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Did you know that anyone who signs up on the forums is put in the forums member list?. This is not AD member list.

This is correct, and after reading the forum posts on your website, I appologize for calling Digalante a lier.

However, Digalante *is* an applying member to AD. I'll leave the readers to think about that one.
#81 Mar 22 2005 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
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All reason's that point to Kfcc being rude. A player's job/subjob choice and rank are all horrible reasons to decline an invite to a party. Sure, nobody can force him to party with someone. But to decline an invite for any of these reasons just makes you a rude person.


Someone, Please add me to the players to watch out for.

I will not party with a war\blm, whm\rng, thf\drg, or anyone above level 50 rank 1 (You can switch allegiance and still get rank2 with very little effort :P). I often don't like partying with certain jobs because there are no good skillchains that we can do together. So I am a rude person.

And seriouly, I APPLIED, I was DENIED. I am not currently APPLYING for AD! Even if I was applying WTF difference does it make? I am not in their linkshell and don't even know 3\4 of them lol

Thank you, good bye. This is pointless lol.
#82 Mar 22 2005 at 4:58 PM Rating: Default
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Someone, Please add me to the players to watch out for.

I will not party with a war\blm, whm\rng, thf\drg,

I agree that there are some poor choices for job/subjob combinations. But this is not a reason to deny someone a party. I actually partied with a WAR/BLM in Boyahda Tree(sp?) because he forgot to change his subjob before we left for camp.

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or anyone above level 50 rank 1 (You can switch allegiance and still get rank2 with very little effort :P).


Rank has nothing to do with a person's ability to successfully party with other players. But the truth is that people do base invites off of this. Rank is not an accurate indicator of ability.

As to being denied membership to AD, I can't find in the forums where they deny you. I found 2 threads where you "pre-applied" but nothing where you were actually denied. Please post a link.
#83 Mar 22 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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We are not ******** who just post "You're denied." Often the "why" can involve personal reasons that many probably don't want posted on a public board. The person is spoke with in, in game, by an officer or two so that any questions can be answered and explained in a more personal approach.

And please, let's not turn this into "omg you won't party with x job/x rank/etc." If that's the case, sign me up as a bad player because often I will pass on parties lacking a red mage depending on my mood (brd + rdm combo is one of my favorite and I prefer them - though I'm more than willing to give my time to exp with any of the white mages in my ls). I have the right to choose how I spend my time in the game. I'm sorry it's not with your exp party, but that's my choice. Please leave me alone with my polite decline or I will let the claws out, depending on how much you annoy me.

#84 Mar 22 2005 at 5:58 PM Rating: Default
Ok, thats fine that its a private matter, but there is no way for me to know through those forums that he was denied. With all the information that I had, my statement was correct.

Don't blow up at me because I don't have access to all the information.

I only made my post after you said that you were denied because it was such a long post.
#85 Mar 22 2005 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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My troll senses are tingling but I have to say something.

I can agree with you only on the point that it's rude to like getting a rise out of people by putting your tag up and declining every invite.

However, and this has already been said, but, he (and no one else for that matter) is under no obligation to join you. And this goes for everyone. If they say no, you take it as a no. And if you truly think that constantly asking a person and then insulting them will make them want to join you, or make you "win" your cyber battle, I feel sorry for you. If someone says "it's none of your concern," that's polite for mind your own business.

I realize I've wasted words on you. Good day.
#86 Mar 22 2005 at 6:09 PM Rating: Default
Seraphimhunter, I'd like to thank you for your post (except for the last part).

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he (and no one else for that matter) is under no obligation to join you. And this goes for everyone. If they say no, you take it as a no.


Absolutely true, but I wasn't trying to force him to party with us. It started out as simply asking him why his flag was up if he didn't want to party (not even immediately after he declined, he was the only tank lfg, and I was continuously checking for other tanks while all this was happening)

If you had a nearly full party that needed one crucial member so that you could start to get exp, you'd like to know why that single person who could fill that spot denied your invite, too.

I only asked him why *after* there were still no other tanks looking AND he still had his flag up.
#87 Mar 22 2005 at 6:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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You are not a man who takes no for an answer.

Proof:

Kfcc declines your party invite, yet you badger him to find out why he still has his party flag up, even when he tells you not to worry about it.

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Ok, thats fine that its a private matter, but there is no way for me to know through those forums that he was denied. With all the information that I had, my statement was correct.

Don't blow up at me because I don't have access to all the information.

I only made my post after you said that you were denied because it was such a long post.

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Digalante says in this thread that he was declined. Instead of accepting this, you choose not to believe him and demand proof.

What kind of nincapoop are you anyway?

And by the way, I always prefer partying with rank 10's over rank 1's. I know for a fact when I take a job that's level 10 and head to Valkrum Dunes, that's one of the first things I look for.
#88 Mar 22 2005 at 6:29 PM Rating: Good
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Ok Ok this is getting old.

Parjanic

You may be a nice guy/gal whatever, but based on your post mentality and supposed reasoning, I only have this to say....


You are a complete idiot.
#89 Mar 22 2005 at 7:29 PM Rating: Default
I have yet to insult anyone's intelligence here, but now I'm on the receiving end of it. I held back any insults in hopes that maybe I might find some people here that would at least sensibly argue my post without resorting to insults. But I guess I was wrong and have learned that it is right to end an arguement with insults as several of the previous posters have shown me.

As to Kfcc and Ukyo, I'll just leave them on my blacklist. To the rest of the posters, don't judge me by this series of posts. We disagree and you wish to insult me. Thank you for making this a waste of my time, and mostly your own.
#90 Mar 22 2005 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Parjanic I have been reading this on the forum and for some reason I decided to reply. While I do agree with you that it is rude to put up an LFG flag if you do not want to party, I think how you handled the whole situation is rather rude. He declined the invite and that is just something you have to accept. There have been times in an exp party where we needed one crucial member, there had only been 1 or 2 people on and they declined the invite. It is, IMO, none of your business why he had his flag up. You asked, he said no, and that just has to be something you need to accept and move on. This is a game and everyone plays their game differently. If he wants to have his flag up for 4 hours and not pt that is his business, not yours. If he declined for other reasons, then that is his business. Sometimes people just decline because they want to at the moment and that is just something you are going to have to accept. Yes I would probably get upset also if they only person available had their LFG light on and didn't want to party when I /tell Party Do you need it? and sent invite but I would accept it and move on.
#91 Mar 22 2005 at 8:31 PM Rating: Default
Lilliannetaru...
Your post is truely an answer worth waiting for. Thank you for your sensible insight rather than stooping to these other people's (and my) level.

You didn't poke fun at me or leave out bits of the information that I gave. You considered my entire story and made a great post.

I had a bad experience with these people and for some reason or another, I blew up and came here to post it, but you didn't blow up on me.

Thank you for your keeping your cool to show me how to handle this.

To all the other people, shame on you for perpetuating my anger by attacking my post when I was already in an angered state (especially Cheeseballs who gets a huge rate up for making a complete mockery of me).

Edited, Tue Mar 22 20:33:09 2005 by Parjanic
#92 Mar 22 2005 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Pretty sure someone already said similiar ideas to Lilliannetaru, Parjanic.

Go back and read again.
#93 Mar 22 2005 at 9:21 PM Rating: Good
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Parjanic wrote:
To all the other people, shame on you for perpetuating my anger by attacking my post when I was already in an angered state (especially Cheeseballs who gets a huge rate up for making a complete mockery of me).


I wanted to say "lesson learned," but bear in mind we cannot be held responsible for your actions. If anger was being perpetuated, then *you*, not *us* have to take steps to control it. If you have no control over your emotions, that's not a good thing man.

Don't think those on your opposition haven't taken into consideration all of what you said. If the odds are against you in a situation like this, though, perhaps it's time you rethink your position.
#94 Mar 23 2005 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Parjanic, after reading the back and forth comments in the other thread about your encounter, I do only have one main thing to point out.

I think you might be over-signifying the meaning of having your party flag up.
There are dozens of combinations of reasons as to why someone might have their flag up, and dozens more as to why someone might refuse to group with you. Now, maybe it would have been more polite for him to give you a concrete answer such as "I'm waiting for my LS to invite me" or "I don't party with anyone lower than such and such rank" but, he didn't. Many people don't.

Maybe 1/10 people I invite who refuse actually go out of their way to explain why. I don't find it offensive, hell, even I rarely say anything more than {No Thanks} if I don't want to be with that particular party. I just don't have the time. Usually I'm at the AH or in my MH trying to remember a billion things.

You were desperate for a tank, which I understand. Although I'm sure he was completely unaware of your desperation. To him it was just another party invite. Maybe he was caught up in 4 other tells and LS chat and didn't have the time to devote just to explain to a random person why he didn't want to group?

See what I'm getting at?

Sometimes you need to step back and view it from the other person's point of view. Not everyone takes the time out to be super polite to everyone they meet. Party invites get treated like business a lot of times, where "short and to the point" is more appreciated than lengthy conversations.

But as I said before...a party flag does not always mean a definite desire to join an XP group. Please try to change your views on that, for your own patience and frustration.


#95 Mar 23 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
I invited a 37 brd yesterday, and by the end of the pt, he was calling half of my pt, whom are essentially my set and good friends, "f***ers" and "****" as well as spamming my pld for gils @@. brd by the name of Weedman I don't know anything else about him, I'm not saying he's a bad player, he just scared the hell out of me XD also I was disappointed with his bardly performance, but that's another matter.
#96 Mar 23 2005 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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There are many people I come across that I have some problem with be it just plain rude or what not.

Well this one takes the cake, Soulcarrier.
I was partying in Qufim and this person was rude and arrogant from the get go.
This is what happened, we got thru a chain and me and the other Whm were completely out of MP. He goes "Pull a crab in the tunnel?" I said "No we have no MP" (I do my MP macro now). A little time down the line me and the other whm are almost full MP. One of the other members said "Pull now?" Soul here chimes in and say's "No, the noob said not to pull." Thats when I said "I said No because we were out of MP." This is when he starts yelling I'm a noob.
(He loves to throw around the word "Noob".)
He eventually got the party to disband.

He is the most rude, arrogant jerk I have ever met.
#97 Mar 24 2005 at 10:04 AM Rating: Default
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Cheesballs is my hero...
#98 Jan 15 2006 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
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thanks moved it.

Edited, Sun Jan 15 14:20:28 2006 by ZanonX
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#99 Jan 15 2006 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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Zanon -

Please repost this here: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=35&mid=1095621765815617046&num=2 That link will take you to the actual "players to watch out for" list. This thread is supposed to be for people to argue about anything that shows up there. :)
#100 Nov 12 2006 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
<random bump>

Great idea guys, commendable effort to the people with the idea, shame the admins wouldn't sticky it. I wish Ramuh server was this smart lol. so again you guys are awesome ^^ keep up the great work.
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