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#427 Mar 22 2005 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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Let me reiterate the point you seem to be missing:

Even if I had my flag up all day, I am not required to exp with you or anyone else. You are a stranger to me and even if you were my best friend, my reasons don't concern you. My choice. I am under no obligation whatsoever to give you a reason as to why my flag is up.

If it had been me, I would have blacklisted you and hopped on my ls to tell everyone about this idiot that wouldn't take no for an answer. And I'd leave my flag on the rest of the day, no matter what I was doing.

So basically, just get over it. It really is none of your business why this person has their flag up and not wanting to exp.
#428 Mar 22 2005 at 2:10 PM Rating: Default
I'm not missing that point, it truely isn't any of my business why someone doesn't want to exp. But you don't seem to see that not wanting to exp but still keeping your flag up is rude.

I made my post because I had a very "unsavory" experience in meeting him, and I said that.

Sure I was plenty rude myself (even more so after I lost my temper), but why should I be kind to another rude player?

EDIT: grammer

and it seems that the majority of people defending Kfcc are just members from his own LS.

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Edit: BTW: Looking for party doesn't mean just exp. He might have been waiting for a friend, he might be looking for bcnm.

If this was true, his search comment would have explained that.

Edited, Tue Mar 22 14:15:42 2005 by Parjanic
#429 Mar 22 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Parjanic wrote:
I fling a series of insults at him about him being an a$$hole and such (since that's exactly what he was being), ...

You insult him, and he's the as[/b]shole? Riiight.... He didn't want to party with you, let it go. Don't blame him for the lack of tanks at the time, he can't single-handedly save every party out there. At least he's not one of those who puts their flag up, then goes AFK for 5 hours. You should be glad he even responded saying, [b]{No thanks.}
#430 Mar 22 2005 at 2:23 PM Rating: Default
Alphajew, you make a very good point:

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At least he's not one of those who puts their flag up, then goes AFK for 5 hours. You should be glad he even responded saying, {No thanks.}


There are a lot of those people too.

Seriously, can't anyone admitt that leaving your flag up is rude when you don't have a search comment to say that you're looking for a different kind of party(if this was truely the case)?

All this is turning into now is me vs. ArchDominus.
#431 Mar 22 2005 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry to say Parjanic but seems like its a 10 against one argument. Kfcc is really special in his own way and that's what makes him...Kfcc! So we might as well drop the subject and move on ^^ btw Bowser if u get Kfcc kicked out of AD can i bring him home? :x
#432 Mar 22 2005 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
And 8 of those 10 posts are from members of AD.

Could anybody step outside of the LS-mate defense and honestly admitt that leaving your flag up and not wanting to party is rude?

Or is this a lost cause because the members of AD are just going smother out my experience by not listening to all the facts of the incident?
#433 Mar 22 2005 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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/hijack - sorry, but I have to make this point

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All this is turning into now is me vs. ArchDominus.


Actually, AD and others. But that's not my point. Anytime someone either mentions an ls mate on the good players thread or defends one here, people immediately go "OMGWTFURINT3HSAMELS!!!11!ONE!1" and therefore your opinion sucks and does not count.

Well, we like to think the players in our linkshell are good players. We often exp together, do missions, etc. quite often. But ooooooh no, don't you dare mention your ls mate for saving your coffer key party from one link too many, or being an excellent tank in an exp party, or being an outstanding redmage. Don't you even think about defending a ls mate who (if you're in any linkshell worth a damn) is a friend and you've known a while when someone who probably doesn't know them from Adam decides they're a bad player b.c they won't exp with them, wouldn't break a party to D2 them or any of the other stupid reasons I've seen show up on this board. I see three reasons to list people on this board: 1) They really sucked at their job and refused to listen to advice, 2) They scammed someone (with proof), or 3) They MPKed.

Once upon a time when I first came to this board, I dared to put my ls mates up for good players because they were (and have been listed by others since) but I was attacked. So remember kids - your ls mates, no matter how awesome or good of a friend they are, you cannot mention or defend them on this board!

Disclaimer: Yes, occassionally idiots defend idiots, but that's rather obvious and I personally enjoy the entertainment.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled viewing.
#434 Mar 22 2005 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, I am not in AD. so :P

I seriously think you belong on this list more than whoever it was that declined your invite. You have no reason to be rude to anyone for declining an invite, just keep looking for another member.

Maybe he didn't like your subjob choice?
Maybe he didn't like your rank?
Maybe he didn't like your job?

Are all of those reasons someone may not want to join a party? yes. Are those reasons that you would want to tell this person who is asking you to party? Probably not, out of courtesy for that person.

There are very few reasons that being rude to a person is actually an acceptable way to treat someone, and turning down a party invite is far from one of those reasons.

*edited* spelling XD

Edited, Tue Mar 22 15:19:51 2005 by Digalante
#435 Mar 22 2005 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
There are certain standards that the members of this virtual community we call FFXI adhere to. Kfcc was rude by misusing the lfg flag and not responding kindly to explain any misunderstandings that there might have been.

He is by no means a "bad player" but he was rude and so, judging by the thread title, he was a player to watch out for due to his attitude.

If I am to be put on this thread, by all means do it. But the only thing someone could put me here for is being rude to rude people. Not a legitamate reason really. If you try to tell me that he was just doing the same, just remember that he was rude before I lost my temper (and again since people don't read everything I say, he ADMITTS to doing things just to **** people off)

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You have no reason to be rude to anyone for declining an invite

I was not rude because he declined my invite, I was rude because he left his flag up after saying that he didn't want to party. This is a rude thing to do.

Edited, Tue Mar 22 15:33:24 2005 by Parjanic

Krackhead, you would be correct. Digalante is not a member of AD, but he is applying to be a member. I did my research, but it would seem that I didn't do enough. So Digalante, again, is not a member of AD, but has applied for membership to AD.

I sincerely apologize for my accusation. But he is seeking to become a member.

Edited, Tue Mar 22 15:57:28 2005 by Parjanic
#436 Mar 22 2005 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=35&mid=1095631104179814778&num=76

It's there for a reason. {Thank You}

My personal opinion on this issue is irrelevant, as such i won't post it. Please take any further discussions on it into the discussion thread. thanks.
#437 Mar 22 2005 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
Oke doke.

I guess its rude to leave your flag up and not want a pt.
(but this type of thing has never really bothered me..I just look for another person if someone declines me)
Happy?

But it doesnt seem like one would gain much satisfaction from sitting around with their flag up waiting for invites just so they they can go...

"NO! so ha! are you annoyed? I love that about me!"

As far as AD showing up to defend their member.. I think most LS's are protective of their members and would do similarly. Even moreso with HNMLS's, they seem to be quite fixated on reputation. So if you list one of their's in public forum you will get bee-hived. Sadly this is just how is is. Some LS's are more polite than others, and I dont hink anything that AD members posted here was out of line. So in short if you post in a thread that is about the critisism of others you should be prepared to face critisism yourself.

One thing I would like to point out-

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I fling a series of insults at him about him being an a$$hole and such (since that's exactly what he was being), and he never took his flag down for about another 30 mins. I know this because this is about when my party broke up due to lack of tanks lfg and I had given up on Kfcc.


Here you post that you flung a series of insults at one of your fellow players (then added him to the bad player list?). While he may have been rude, it appears from the way that your post reads that YOU took it to the next lvl. One cannot make some one desist from being an ******* by being an ******* to them. Its actions like this that make FFXI not fun.

Then later in your post-
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So I point out that I was already after the tiger before he came around. So he tells me to blow it out my a$$ again and that I was just trying to **** him off. So as I try to talk nicely with him, he just responds to everything I say with a "f%ck you". By this point, I start flinging the insults right back. He tells me that I'm not worth his time, but obviously I am since he was the first to both speak and insult.


You list another player for being rude to you, in almost the exact same fashion in which you admitted (in your post) to displaying towards the first player you listed.

I am not sticking up for anyone here, as I know none of these players in game. But your post is contradictory of itsef. No one likes to be talked to in a lewd way. What makes you think that you possess the wisdom to decide when it is necessary and when its wrong?

So in short you call one player and ******* then add him to the bad player list, then add another player to the list told you to **** off?(after you snatched a claim up from under him no less..)

I think you would have been better served to start a general thread about server opinion on LFG and flag ettiquette. It would have been much more productive than THIS thread. I feel that KFCC may have actually been rude to you, and well, that sucks, and you have the right to voice your opinion about that sucktitude publicly..

and anyone else has the right to disagree.(it is a public forum, and Alla has a decidedly aggressive audience when it comes to the topic of disagreeing with their peers)

Rudeness and name calling solve nothing, it only displays an apparent lack of communication skills, and more often than not it leaves the person who launched the verbal assault feeling more upset than the person on the receiving end.

So play nice! If other players are ****** towards take the high road..its really not that hard.


#438 Mar 22 2005 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
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I am just curious as to how he was mis-using the LFG flag? Because he was looking for a group, but not yours?

If you were rude to me after I declined an invite to your party, I would be rude back to you. I think that him saying he was too lazy to take down his flag after you sent an invite is hilarious. He turned you down and you got mad. Then he rubs your anger in your face by saying that he was too lazy to take down the flag? IMO thats funny as hell, and I think by posting on this site you are just making the funny that much funnier.

*edit* Bah forget it, PM me if you want. I guess I will obide by the "Forum Police" policy by not littering this thread with spam, sorry.

*edit* final edit sorry
I am a reject, so what would an application have to do with someone being rude? XD

Edited, Tue Mar 22 16:08:29 2005 by Digalante
#439 Mar 22 2005 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Parjanic,

Did you know that anyone who signs up on the forums is put in the forums member list?. This is not AD member list.

Calling someone a liar is rude in itself. Maybe you should do a bit more investigation before making statements like that.

#440 Mar 22 2005 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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Some one that I would like to report about for being unsavory is Bowser.

Here is what happened:

I was walking by the AH when I seen Bowser in front of AH window. I said dude can I have some gill. He said sorry I don’t have any.

So I say ok fine. I go about my business. When I happen to walk by the AH again I still see Bowser standing there in front of the AH window. I am like wth, why is he still in front of the AH window if he does not have any gill. So I ask him "Why are you still at the AH if you don’t have any gill to give me?". He replies with something along the lines of "It doesn't concern you, don't worry about it." Well....correct me if I'm wrong but I need gill, and he is buying something from the AH, so this definitely concerns me.

This time I tell him that I really need gill and because he is in front of the AH he must have some gill to spare. Again, he just says "don't worry about it."

By this point I'm already pretty pissed off. So I tell him that its rude to be in front of the AH if you don’t plan on giving others gill. Again, he just says "don't worry about it."

I fling a series of insults at him about him being an a$$hole and such (since that's exactly what he was being), and he just stood there in front of the AH for another 30 mins.

I just can't believe how rude some people are.
#441 Mar 22 2005 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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LMAO
#442 Mar 22 2005 at 4:04 PM Rating: Default
As it has been pointed out, this needs to be taken to the other thread, and it shall.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=35&mid=1095631104179814778&page=2
#443 Mar 22 2005 at 4:43 PM Rating: Default
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Who's the idiot that shot a law's rocket into the furnace?

I am still guilty of peaking in here to see if anyone mentioned me as a bad player >>
#444 Mar 22 2005 at 7:26 PM Rating: Good
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I love you, Control.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/mistellsrus/control.jpg


EDIT: I'm not actually calling Control a bad player.. I just thought this was amusing and didn't want to start a new thread for it.

Edited, Tue Mar 22 19:35:38 2005 by Alauce
#445 Mar 22 2005 at 11:50 PM Rating: Default
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Seaking the whm: Our pt was killing for great exp and then he just casts reraise and it strikes me as odd... then he did poisonga. He died it went after pld and killed her (a ls mate). Then our brd left so now brd and healerless we break apart. He killed my little chance to level. He tried to say it was a accident but he did cast reraise before the mpk and was done at a perfect time. Please dont pt with him.
#446 Mar 23 2005 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Well actually I was in a different part of jeuno to my friend, and he told me he couldnt invite me and try putting my flag up which I did. I was on lfp for about 2 minutes while I joined and I responded to the one person who asked me about a party, so I barely think I was misusing the lfp system......

But I will respond

PLAYER TO WATCH OUT FOR: NUEDIAN

Declined an invite while his flag was on, and explained in a reasonable fashion why he didnt wish to join the party. Also admits to using his flag for a reason during the 2 minutes it was up.


Ok everyone happy now?
#447 Mar 24 2005 at 2:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I like pissing off people that just won't take no for an answer as well. Can someone please add me to this list?


I ADD RAYNIL!!! No reason why but I just do. =p
#448 Mar 24 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Default
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Damn ive been trying to get on this list for over a year ive trained,MPKed,stole mobs,pissed people off for no reason,had a gimped sub till 60,pulled with no utsusemi ect ect ect...and i dont see my name anywhere here and now my whorio friend refuses to take his flag down and he has a whole page made for him...WTF people thats just not fair...and parjanic id like to know where u xp :P

Ps:Kfcc is a *****.




so is bowser.


Edited, Thu Mar 24 09:56:20 2005 by RedDragonn
#449 Mar 24 2005 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I ADD RAYNIL!!! No reason why but I just do. =p



Muahahahaha! I made it before you, Calien!
#450 Mar 25 2005 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Adding 2 players
Mattssj and Belgarath

This happened to my ls mates and I thought I'd share. My buddys got ripped off bad.

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Today just looks like a sucky day all around

I was camping Leaping Lizzy with Korin tonight, and was asked to be in a pt with Belgarath and Mattssj

I got Lizzy and she dropped the boots. We lotted and Korin got the 9XX something so he won.

I did not notice at the time, but Belgarath immediately put quartermaster on. He got the boots and immediately logged with Mattssj.

This is the first time this has ever happened to me. I am still in shock that people will do that.

Poor Korin has been trying to get these boots all day. So next time if you camp for LL, please learn from my lesson and not PT with these 2 unsavory characters.
#451 Mar 25 2005 at 3:05 AM Rating: Decent
dont party with strangers!!! especially those overcamed NMs that drops a very well known item!!! lol
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